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Post by questa on Apr 30, 2022 8:27:29 GMT
It makes sense to me. I can visualize 20 or 30cm, or at least know one is bigger than the other. However, I can't imagine how much volume a given number of liters is. You can use your body as a rough measuring tool.Spread your fingers and thumb as wide as you can with the hand on a firm surface. From your finger-tip to thumb tip is 8 inches or 20cm. Measuring other features on your body (and remembering them!)can be a great help gardening to knitting ,FabriC ,rope cable etc. Distance from tip of R shoulder to outstretched Left hand fingers This is a metre FOR ME. I find I use the "span" several times a week. It is very useful at the nurseries when you would look like a dork using a tape measure to assess your plants.
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Post by whatagain on Apr 30, 2022 9:11:45 GMT
My trauma is a first world one. We went to the cirque royal de Bxl to see a ballet from Stravinsky.
Tbe misic is ... soecial, i find it dissonant and i felt good when it stopped... i guess ut is nit ideal to convince me i spent a lovely moment.
Stage and cistumes were minimalist. Choreography was splendid, and timely. However tbe gestures sometimes made me think of Bonobo's dancing instead of humans. They also danced half naked, in boxers with no shirt or long underwear.
Then towards the end, the dancers decided to change clothes. In stage, they turned their back to us, fully unclothed and put a - nice - robe for the final.
But they still danced and the robe got lifted, showing their nalls and more.
I was very happy to have paid close to 500$ to bring my family there and to eventually show my 12 year old the attributes of manhood.
Not a chance in hell i will do it again... i will forget 'contemporary' ballets, music etc for the rest of my life.
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Post by questa on Apr 30, 2022 10:24:38 GMT
WOW! whaty! was it "Rite of Spring" they performed?If so you are not alone in your feelings... When it was first performed in 1913 it caused riots and general chaos in the streets.It is not easy to enjoy the music if you don't like the dissonance and weird rhythms. I like the Russian 20th Century composers who were trying to make sense of a fragile world, but I have to be in the right mood for Stravinsky.
On a lighter note Sir Robert Helpmann was in a performance which featured male dancers in tights. The boss of the ballet group gave the caste a talking to regarding the men not wearing the "supporting device" under their tights, "I don't want to see dancers in major parts looking vulgar" Quick as a flash, Helpmann returned," What about those of us with small parts, do we have to as well?"
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 30, 2022 15:07:09 GMT
Stravinsky is not always easy to listen to.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 30, 2022 15:12:11 GMT
I was very happy to have paid close to 500$ to bring my family there and to eventually show my 12 year old the attributes of manhood. Whatagain, if it's any consolation, a 12-year-old might be more open to the dissonant music and minimalist staging. That said, I fail to understand the incorporation of pointless nudity into the work. Surely anyone with half a brain would know that it would be distracting and even offensive to many, all for the sake of childish shock value.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 30, 2022 16:12:24 GMT
Europe is a different place. I would say that complete nudity at some point is present in at least 50% of the stage presentations I have seen in the last few years. It is also present in many European television series. It it generally not pointless but instead makes the point that nudity is not a big deal in most occasions and nobody, not even children, should be shocked by it.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 30, 2022 16:17:04 GMT
Meanwhile, I am hoping that Fatima, the old Tunisian woman who spends at least 12 hours a day on the bench in front of my building, keeps her mouth shut about who broke a bottle of beer on the stoop of my building. My neighbours should assume that it was one of the many vagrants who temporarily sit on the stoop to savour a cheap refreshment.
As for the pool of beer inside the building, let them keep guessing.
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Post by whatagain on Apr 30, 2022 17:31:05 GMT
Rite of spring it was Questa.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 30, 2022 18:22:06 GMT
Questa knows her dissonant musical compositions!
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Post by questa on May 1, 2022 0:40:09 GMT
My special favourites were living and composing during times of revolutions, imprisonments, terror.hunger, sieges, murder of the Royals, WW 1 and other dramas. As usual the composers, dancers musicians and their friends and families suffered if they could not produce marvels for the ruling class to dazzle European Royalties. When you hear the music you can almost hear the mood of the people. Scheherazade Op. 35, is a symphonic suite composed by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov in 1888 - It is a collection of dancers doing the folkdance influenced presentations from their home regions in Russia. The storyline is "1001 nights" and these dancers are entertaining the Sultan and his guests. Fantastic ballet for Miss 12 years to start on. Read the history of the dance, the performers, specially conductor in this ballet, then go and enjoy a beautiful experience
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Post by patricklondon on May 1, 2022 6:49:15 GMT
Sir Robert Helpmann was in a performance which featured male dancers in tights. The boss of the ballet group gave the caste a talking to regarding the men not wearing the "supporting device" under their tights, "I don't want to see dancers in major parts looking vulgar" Quick as a flash, Helpmann returned," What about those of us with small parts, do we have to as well?" He also said "The trouble with nude dancing is that not everything stops when the music stops".
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Post by tod2 on May 1, 2022 8:29:39 GMT
Whatagain I commiserate with you and family. I think the revealing of their private parts would definitely detract from the enjoyment of the dancing and choreography simply because it seems from what you say that it was done over and over and at length. A quick flash here and there fine, but so much revealing to me would be revolting. Believe me I am no prude, but am also not into the shock of experiencing an uncomfortable sight.
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Post by Kimby on May 3, 2022 0:54:38 GMT
I have a rash on my cheek. I think it’s poison ivy.
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Post by questa on May 3, 2022 1:03:05 GMT
He also said "The trouble with nude dancing is that not everything stops when the music stops". London...early '70s Helpmann gets out of a taxi...big burley driver calls," Hey, Fairy, you forgot your wand!" and passes over Helpmann's furled umbrella. H minces daintily up to the driver, gently taps him on the head with his 'wand' and says " Dithappear!"
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Post by questa on May 3, 2022 1:55:29 GMT
Just remembered - 1970 A play called "the Elocution of Benjamin" -a one person play starring Oz actor Gordon Chater .The start of the play is set in the bathroom and as the curtain rises centre front of stage is dominated by Gordon stark naked facing the audience as if we were a mirror, checking his face and wrapping a towel around his waist.
Chater is no longer with us but at that time he was middle aged, overweight,wrinkles and thinning hair. As his character dressed he tells us us about himself and so the play went on. The nudity was hardly noticed - it was so "right" for the action. It did not bother the usual groups who write to editors, but Adelaide has always been way ahead with social development.
The play was a hit around the world .Over 600 performances in UK
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Post by tod2 on May 3, 2022 16:36:31 GMT
The worst day of the new week! It has been Workers Day on 1st May BUT no, our government has to give an extra day because the holiday fell on a Sunday. Pathic. OK Fine , my grandkids still went to school because they are in a Private School who does not recognise any holidays - Good for them. But that's not my beef. I have had guests in my lodgings since April. Horrible squalid individuals. Filthy is a term I could recognise. Just when they were about to leave an issue came up about missing money. They questioned me in my own home whether I had entered their room. I was on my patio enjoying a glass of bubbly. I was at a loss, but eventually realised they were trying to put the blame on me. I told them in no uncertain terms I was having none of it and they should shove off. When eventually my husband showed up, he admitted the comsultant had handed him the money. If my phone had not run out of AirTime I could have confirmed this. So it goes...
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Post by htmb on May 3, 2022 17:16:59 GMT
Sounds like tenants from hell.
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Post by Kimby on May 3, 2022 19:44:38 GMT
I have a rash on my cheek. I think it’s poison ivy. AND a bug crawled into my ear as I was falling asleep and I got to listen to it scrabble around on my ear drum till I finally dropped off. Oh, and Pearl (who almost never throws up) had a gawdawful vomit explosion on the cream-colored carpet after eating a whole can of dark red Fancy Feast last night. Mr. Kimby is hobbled with a bad back ache, so I had to deal with the four (4) areas of the carpet that she messed up. (She seems to feel better today.)
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Post by bixaorellana on May 3, 2022 20:55:35 GMT
Tod, airbnb hosts can't just throw people like that out?
Dogs (& apparently cats too) seek carpet when they need to have some kind of accident. Carpet is also highly desirable for bone gnawing & the like. I guess it's the closest thing to a patch of grass that humans keep in their houses.
Anyway, yes -- you had traumas.
Marginally related: I joined one of those groups where people ask & answer about plant IDs. It's really amazing what people don't know, as so far almost everything asked has been about what I'd consider the most common of plants. Hand to heart, one picture up for an ID was of a rose! Anyway, today someone asked, "Is this poison ivy?" It was a picture of strawberry plants.
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Post by Kimby on May 3, 2022 22:08:27 GMT
Leaflets three? Raspberry plants maybe confused with PI….
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Post by bixaorellana on May 3, 2022 22:31:03 GMT
More like deeeeep ignorance!
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Post by questa on May 3, 2022 23:02:31 GMT
She knows 2 plants,one is a rose, the other isn't.
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Post by tod2 on May 4, 2022 8:37:46 GMT
Bixa & htmb - They were upperclass Joburgites (haling from Johannesburg) all in their 20's or so. A mix of two men and two women. Unfortunately after their initial Air BnB stint, they wanted to stay on for another couple of weeks as business was good , so we did a private deal. The unit was always left in a total state of chaos and this made it very difficult for the maid who had to change linen once a week. Yes, we could have terminated their stay but their American boss from Knoxville only appeared once to view the room and once he stayed over in another unit on his own. But this would have been a major upheaval as he had a contract with a mall in our area. To be fair on him we chastised them and told them to pull their sox up or we would ask them to leave. So they stayed on and lived like pigs in shit and burnt my Jamie Oliver pots to blackened ruin. Yesterday took 4 hours to clean and get it habitable for the next guest, who arrived to check in only an hour after we had finished cleaning! Then as they were due to leave we had the missing money incident. Never again.
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Post by onlyMark on May 4, 2022 9:46:44 GMT
I think you can leave bad reviews of guests on AirBnB.
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Post by mickthecactus on May 4, 2022 10:01:49 GMT
Wouldn’t it be better to leave good reviews about bad guests?
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Post by tod2 on May 4, 2022 16:26:27 GMT
Ha Ha you two! We have left a candid and honest bad review I think only twice in three years but feel unless the guest is absolutely awful it is better to say nothing or very little...which in my mind alludes the prospective host to a reason why not much was said. Good guests get glowing reports which in itself is a good advertisement that it's a prime spot .....even for ghastly people!
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Post by bixaorellana on May 6, 2022 0:38:26 GMT
I think sometime in the early 90s I bought a 3-piece set of cookware. It's stainless with nifty loop handles and well fitting, slightly domed lids. It was made in Israel & I have no idea of the brand. At any rate, even though I own some much better quality cookware, the 1 & 1/2 quart size of that little set was my favorite, most used pot. Saturday night I put some water, salt, & a few drops of olive oil in it, covered it, turned on the fire, then came into the living room & started editing pictures, totally forgetting I had a pot on the fire. Eventually it penetrated my consciousness, but by that time everything had boiled away & the inside of the pot was black and crusty. *sigh* After it cooled off, I went at it with one of those stainless steel curly scrubbies & ammonia, managing to get the inside smooth again, although still very discolored. I figured that I'd do some research & find a way to brighten it again. Well, Saturday night was when I had the reaction to my booster shot, so had a terrible night. Sunday morning I hovered over the coffee pot while boiling water, as I always do to heat my mug. That gave me an idea, so I poured some of the hot water into the poor abused pot and immediately heard a loud POP. Dammit all to hell -- the aluminum plate on the bottom of the pot had completely pulled away on one side, thus dashing any hope I had of salvaging it. Of course everyone has been on the edge of his/her seat waiting to find out what I did about the pot, right? I ordered what I thought was the same size to replace it -- found a nice pot at a decent price. It came today. Here it is with my ruined favorite behind it. *sigh* I ordered the wrong damned size because I am a species of idiot. When the new one came, I looked on the bottom of the old one. Yep ~ it says 2, for 2 quarts presumably. Was it too darkened when I looked at it before for me to see that? I measured it by pouring water into it. I guess the right way is to fill it to the tippy-top, which I did not do. Anyway, the new one is very nice, but I don't like its lid. I liked the lid on the old one. (Portrait of a Woman Not Getting Over Trauma).
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Post by onlyMark on May 6, 2022 6:24:32 GMT
*sigh* I ordered the wrong damned size I wonder if the alternative way of measuring sizes that has been commented on, i.e. using the size such as 18cm which is the diameter measured across the top on the inside, would have led to the same result. Milk pan, 14cm: 0.9 litres, 1.5 pints Saucepan, 14cm: 1 litre, 1.75 pints Saucepan, 16cm: 1.5 litres, 2.75 pints Saucepan, 18cm: 2 litres, 3.5 pints
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Post by tod2 on May 6, 2022 8:45:59 GMT
Bixa I am looking at your new pot to see if it matched any of mine and what I found a thumbs down for them. I notice the saucepan has metal handle/arm which I'm sure stays cool as it is far from the pot part but the lid has a metal top which I'm sure cannot be lifted without a glove, (unless its hollow like one of mine). I have a lid which has a ruber-like insert in the middle, but it still catches me if I stray one iota off the small rubber piece. I think that it's a Jamie Oliver pot but it is now in one of the BnB's so I cant check. Here are some pots I'm using at the moment. The one at the back is a black non stick pot and although the handles are heat resistant I find they stick out too much. I do like the heat resistant knob on the lid though. The large pot in front has enough heat resistant rubber stuff on the handles but I have to be careful when lifting the lid as its only a small strip. The brilliant thing about the pot itself is that it has a lip/spout? on either side and the lid acts like a trainer has you might notice holes on its inner rim. Pouring liquid off is too tricky to keep the lid on but steam escapes easily. The last small pot has metal handles and lid holder and can be touched as the metal is hollow and only gets warm. Notice the darkened area at the bottom....caused by guests who cannot cook on gas unless its full on. Don't know how I will get it shiny again! My black pot at the back is my favourite currently.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 6, 2022 13:35:24 GMT
Mark, a different type of measuring wouldn't have made any difference because I had the wrong size firmly in my tiny mind from the get-go. Somehow I had decided that the replacement pot had to be the 1.5 quart / 1.4 liter size. Since I was using a Mexican site for ordering, the measurements were presented in metric anyway. (I've never seen pot sizes advertised in pints, not in the US either).
Tod, we have different taste in pots.
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