You don't find it has changed? When is the last time you saw a tourist in lederhosen?
The market in les Halles? Lots of bicycles, which then disappeared for a few decades -- now there are lots again. The smoke coming out of the chimney of the barge on the Seine. The smoking everywhere -- still outside of course. And is it the film or is everyone walking around much more slowly than they do now?
I kept waiting for the accordeon music to come on -- fiddling with my loudspeakers!
I was talking about the physical appearance of the city. The disappearance of Les Halles is really the only notable difference. I have seen tourists in lederhosen, although not for a couple of decades. In the 1970's there were also a lot of Japanese women in kimonos on the Champs Elysées. I have not seen any of those for a few decades either.
Unfortunately, that video does not seem to have any sound.
Well, you who spends your time taking pictures of all kinds of buildings and areas of the city, you should know that it has changed quite a lot. What hasn't really changed are the tourist monuments shown in that video: the Eiffel tower, Notre Dame, the Arc de Triomphe...
I sometimes get the impression that parts of Paris are kept sort of "museum-like" in order to keep attracting tourists.
In spite of the buildings changing -- a little -- the feel of the streets and the occupations of the people look the same to me. Nevertheless, on the thread I made about my neighbourhood two years ago, where there were postcards from 100 years ago, it was still incredibly easy to recognize the specific intersections and streets.
One thing I noticed in that film was the uniformity of the skyline in the scene from the Eiffel Tower looking out in the direction of Ecole Militaire. Naturally, the Tour Montparnasse was missing but what struck me even more was the absence of all of the social housing from the 1970's near the périphérique, which tend to be 18-20 floors high and which obviously make a visible bump on the skyline.
The population of Paris started declining in 1954 and it is only since the beginning of the 21st century that population is finally increasing again because of the new housing projects that have replaced industrial zones and decrepit semi-abandoned slum buildings.
I remember your past vs. present thread, it was really neat. It's funny, I was pleased when I recently stumbled upon a pre-Civil War courthouse across the street from me. It is lovely and in good condition. Then I got to thinking how mundane and unremarkable is to live near a beautiful 150-year-old building in Paris or London.
Paris definitely seems more resistant to change than New York. Whenever I watch an 80s movie that is set here, I am astounded at how different (and scruffy) it looks. And in photos from 100 years ago, before the huge skyscrapers started going up, the city looks almost unrecognizable.
Going back to 1936, this video is pretty incredible as well. While I still see the same architecture that I see in 2012, the commentary is surprising, especially where the American narrator mentions several times how clean Paris is as opposed to the rubbish covering American cities!
On our first trip together, the first few mornings, I would wake up, look out the hotel window, and say to my wife, "It must have rained a little last night - the streets are wet -- we're really lucky it stopped before we woke up."
After a couple of days, I realized they were cleaning the streets every night.
I love planning my travel almost as much as doing it.
I was listening to the Saturday food/cooking segment on NPR yesterday. I always hear some interesting tidbit,recipe, technique,new trends in food from various places. Yesterday one of the guests was from the NY Times,Paris correspondent. She waxed poetically about the French peoples love for fresh peas and some of the various methods in which they are prepared. (I have no great love of peas but,some of these sounded positively delicious). Towards the end of the show the hostess asked her if there were any new trends that were being observed in Paris currently. To my shock and dismay she reported that Paris seems to have become "brunchified" and that on almost every other street corner there were now food establishments that were serving bagels (flown in from London!) and Philadelphia Cream Cheese,with the added lox if one desired along with some other seemingly non traditional breakfast/brunch fare.
Well, kind of re joining the party after an absence of a year.....no Paris in 2013 for us (sad face!)....but my lovely husband surprised me at Christmas with a print of a Modigliani painting we both loved and found in Paris (I only knew his art in passing, and my husband not at all).....which was his way of saying we are coming back this year! ;D ;D
So I am once again enjoying seeing all the beyond fabulous topics and photos here on AnyPort!
One thing in reference to mentioning that "the era of little independent shops is in its death throes, like it or not"......I know it wasn't a small independent shop, but am I correct in hearing that the book store "Mona Lisiat" is no more - anywhere? That makes me sad, because I loved browsing those shops!
Paris is such a treasure trove of small independent shops that this news makes me sad....altho' it doesn't surprise me unfortunately.
I'm assuming the ubiquitous Gilbert Jeune bookstores are still alive and well?
Yes, Mona Lisait was liquidated and all of the stores closed. Gibert Jeune is still thriving and Gibert Joseph is thriving even more, having taken over one of the Virgin Megastore locations. The rest of the Virgin Megastore locations are sitting empty...
"the typical French decor that was typical of the time"
Well, not exactly. Obviously the place of a wealthy woman who collected art.
It struck me that she left in a hurry -- confirming things I have read elsewhere -- when she left Paris. Things like brushes lying in her bedroom. (Whatever are those pieces of furniture with a mirror called in English?)
Darned if that isn't the truth, Kerouac, though my maternal grandmothers would have been proud I could pull that little tidbit out of my feeble brain.
I own a chair similar to one of those pictured. It's a Louis something and belonged to my great grandparents. Fortunately it's not of the heavily ornate stuff like those vanity tables which I do not like.
Yes, it is true. There is an official migrant camp for 400 people near where I live, but there are far more migrants than spaces available. This week it was evacuated by the police for the 35th time in two years. 2400 people were taken to temporary shelters, but they often return in less than a week.
I see a lot of videos and photos of Paris completely jam-packed with immigrants/refuges putting tents on boulevards and making a lot of mess. Is this truly the case? or is it propaganda?
I'll qualify the yes response a bit. Only in certain areas at certain times near the Gare du Nord and under the metro line #2 from La Chapelle to Stalingrad as it provides a bit of shelter. Various charities have set up feeding stations near the Stalingrad metro and the Gare de l'Est. Because of the presence of so many immigrants with different cultural backgrounds, and their often disrespectful treatment of women they have caused many problems for women who live in the area around the La Chapelle metro. This spring and summer there were many marches, protests, complaints to the mayor and police about the harassment of women.
I see. I wonder whether people/tourists are afraid of them or at the very least, wary. I would be.
The problems are in areas where tourists don't normally visit and are usually called in tourist code "gritty areas, multi-cultural areas, social housing areas" They have, as I said, made problems for women living and traveling through the areas.
A link to an article from the Guardian about the problem
Since La Chapelle is my neighbourhood, I can add a bit more accurate information to the situation there. It was in fact pretty much an alt-right fantasy elaborated to create a media buzz. The last thing that the migrants want is trouble with the authorities so they basically shrink away from "the French" when we pass close to them. This said, the area around the La Chapelle metro station is nobody's favourite because it's true that 90% of the people hanging around are immigrant or refugee men and a street market springs up instantly the moment the police wander away -- contraband cigarettes, telephone charging cables, socks... From about 4pm to 7pm, you really have to squeeze through on the footpath so obviously the majority of women are uncomfortable there, even if nothing happens to them. After the initial media spasms, many local women came out to say that they have never had the slightest problem there whether they were wearing a miniskirt or a hijab.
The subject faded out of the news just as quickly as it was invented, but there are lots of photographs that make it all look really nasty, and I'm sure that they will be used for years.
Here is what it looks like when you walk through there. Obviously, women who don't like being stared at despise the area.