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Post by lola on Mar 25, 2012 15:59:00 GMT
Do we want the apocalypse, scenes of horror, abandoned tennis shoes? Or will we vote for Santorum?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 16:59:47 GMT
Oh, that is so pathetic. I'm rather happy in France that political advertising on television has always been forbidden and even political billboards are forbidden during the official campaign period.
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Post by lola on Mar 25, 2012 17:52:11 GMT
The candidate behind this ad wants us to regard him as the last word in virtuous manhood. He won big in Louisiana yesterday. Oh, France. Gimme shelter.
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Post by fumobici on Mar 25, 2012 18:08:47 GMT
Did everyone see this video of Santorum being introduced by a preacher at a campaign event?
Only actual crazies would approve. I'm afraid of any state this guy wins a primary in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 20:58:09 GMT
The candidate behind this ad wants us to regard him as the last word in virtuous manhood. He won big in Louisiana yesterday. Oh, France. Gimme shelter. Yes, he garnered a whopping 49% of the vote,a landslide. Gratefully,not in Orleans Parish. There's a reason I don't travel far outside the city to other parts of the state.  |
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Post by lola on Mar 25, 2012 22:34:12 GMT
Santorum won Missouri's February "beauty contest" primary by a wide margin. The Republican caucuses just finished, that were supposed to assign delegates, ended in inconclusive chaos.
Here in the wicked St. Louis metropolitan area you're not going to run into many Santorum supporters. It's the good people outstate, apparently, who think he's hot stuff.
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Post by lola on Mar 25, 2012 22:40:35 GMT
Wait, fumo: the god of Abraham and Isaac was named Jesus? Surely that would've been news to them.
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Post by LouisXIV on Mar 26, 2012 0:05:20 GMT
Welcome to American politics and we have seven more months of this BS.
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Post by mich64 on Mar 26, 2012 0:34:44 GMT
I have been following the Primaries and Caucuses quite a lot. I find the process interesting. I was encouraged and inspired more so four years ago though. I guess if I were an American that would make me a Democrat.
I hope we also get to see here how the leaders are elected in France as well. I watch many different News Programs hoping to learn each process works.
When on vacation in Germany in 2005, we watched the election process for the Chancellor, Angela Merkel. That was confusing, so we tried again in 2009.
If I could go back to school, I think I would take courses in Political Science.
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Post by fumobici on Mar 26, 2012 1:31:43 GMT
Wait, fumo: the god of Abraham and Isaac was named Jesus? Surely that would've been news to them. I know ;D It'd be truly funny if there just weren't so darn many of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 17:31:51 GMT
This video is considered so outrageous that it has now been shown on the French news programs.
(Our election is in exactly one month -- first round.)
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Post by mich64 on Mar 26, 2012 17:41:38 GMT
Kerouac, do you continue on having rounds until the votes are with a majority to one candidate? How many rounds does this usually take? When you vote, are you voting for a Party or for a person representing a party. There is a President of France and there also a Prime Minister? If so what does he do?
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Post by bjd on Mar 26, 2012 18:25:33 GMT
Mich -- I think only the Pope is chosen through decreasing rounds!
Here in France there are two rounds: one with all the candidates who managed to get enough signatures to be eligible -- they need 500 from mayors, but since there are, I believe, 36,000 communes the main candidates usually get enough.
The second round is between the two candidates who got the most votes the first time around. Of course, the candidates usually represent a party but I have the impression that it's much more personal than in Canada where the PM really is the head of the political party in question.
The president chooses the Prime Minister. They usually tend to blame the PM for policies that are wildly unpopular, which is why some presidents have several prime ministers over the course of their presidency.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 18:28:56 GMT
All non proportional elections (that's just about all elections except the European elections) are in two rounds if the winner of the first round does not have at least 50% of the vote. In round 2, you can find anybody who received at least 12.5% of the vote in the first round, but generally this just means two people. However, the second round of the presidential election is restricted to the top two from the first round.
France has a presidential regime like the United States. The president is very powerful (veto powers, ability to dissolve parliament and call new elections...) but has to get laws voted by the legislature. He names a prime minister from the majority party of parliament (hopefully his own but not always) and it is the prime minister who is in charge of getting legislation passed. We will have legislative elections about a month and a half after the presidential elections.
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Post by mich64 on Mar 26, 2012 22:44:26 GMT
In comparison, is the French Legislative equivalent to the US Senate? Is it then accurate that the Leading Party of the Country is not determined until after the voting for the Legislative where then the majoritiy of Party members winning will rule the Legislature? Does each Province/Region of the Country get to offer equal amounts of delegates for election? How many legislatives are elected? Perhaps I should have forked this thread instead of discussing the subject of the French election? My apologies to Lola. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2012 7:21:58 GMT
There are two houses of parliament, but the "lower" house is more important because it can override the Senate through a second vote of certain legislation. (Anyway, the Senate has totally different elections through an electoral college system.)
The winner of the presidential election will name a prime minister and other ministers that he wants immediately, but it is true that these are just temporary posts until the legislative election. Assuming he gets the legislature that he wants, most of the ministers will be confirmed, but there will already be a little tweaking depending on who was elected and who just squeezed through. For example, if the Green party makes a very strong showing in the legislative election, it will get more important posts in the government. The Green party is one of the biggest unknowns every time, because it will only get about 2% of the vote in the first round of the presidential election because it did not choose the most charismatic leader, but for example, in the European elections, it got 16% of the vote.
Districts are based on population figures, just like in most places. The legislative districts have been redrawn since the last election, so there should be plenty of surprises.
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Post by lola on Mar 27, 2012 16:02:37 GMT
Not at all, mich. I like digressions.
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