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Post by charlie on May 10, 2012 4:39:04 GMT
When will this shit end?? How long will it take for dumbass anti-abortionist to discover that women have a right to life as well as their unborn progeny. I refer to the recent events in Canada. news.ca.msn.com/canada/anti-abortion-activists-tell-harper-debate-is-on-1Fuck off you ignorant, self serving bible thumping SOB's. Not everyone agrees with the dictates of a obsolete tome. And by the way where does it say in the aforementioned book that abortion is forbidden?? It doesn't. It makes my blood boil to hear these sanctimonious right to lifers. I support any woman who decides that perhaps it's not the right time or maybe not the right Dad or any other reason she can come up with. IT'S HER BODY!!!! No collection of cells can negate that the woman is alive and the cell cluster IS NOT!!! Without the woman it's just, what the hell is it?? It is nothing. Maybe a parasite? Actually it meets every criteria of a parasite. |
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Post by onlymark on May 10, 2012 5:32:30 GMT
Don't sit on the fence Charlie. Decide one way or the other.
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Post by charlie on May 10, 2012 5:49:54 GMT
;D
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 6:56:36 GMT
One of the things that was saved by the recent election in France was 100% reimbursement of abortion costs. The previous government was on the verge of going in the opposite direction to try to get the fundamentalist vote.
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Post by bjd on May 10, 2012 8:11:05 GMT
Christ!-- a "private member's bill' addressing a problem among "Indian-born women" -- how narrow can you get?
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Post by imec on May 10, 2012 18:05:38 GMT
Our extreme right wing government of today is a scary bunch indeed.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2012 18:21:26 GMT
Sometimes I think that our own extreme right is left-of-centre compared to some of the options in North America.
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Post by ninchursanga on May 16, 2012 17:11:02 GMT
In the state of Virginia there have been plenty of regulations implemented to make it more difficult to get an abortion. The regulations vary from ultrasound exams and ultrasound pictures of the embryo/fetus which must then be kept on the patients file forever to imposing construction/building regulations on the clinics which they can't meet so they are forced to close down.
What ticks me off is when anti-abortion advocates act as if there are plenty of woman have abortions on a whim, who wake up one day, 8 months pregnant and all of a sudden decide they don't want the baby. That's just bollocks cause the number of late-term abortions is really low, similar to women who abort due to rape/incest.
Another thing that ticks me off is that they try to impose their personal beliefs on the rest of the nation. If you're so anti-abortion, then simply don't have one when you get pregnant but stay out of my womb.
And I also believe that those women who do have an abortion should be able to get a medical treatment that treats them with compassion and that they can keep their dignity instead of being stigmatized.
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Post by joanne28 on Jun 20, 2012 16:34:35 GMT
One thing that really gets up my nose about these anti-abortionists is that they are only concerned about embryos. Once a toe gets stuck out in the real world, they lose all interest and won't help in any way.
I often thought of phoning these twerps up and asking if they would agree to subsidizing me for 21 years if I were pregnant. And at my current lifestyle, not a bare-bones welfare scrabble. I should have done it.
I did email one MP who had a private bill to penalize those who coerced women into having abortions. I asked him (of course it was a him!) if his bill would also penalize those who coerced women into NOT having abortions. His response was no, naturally.
May I rant a little more? I detest these people who call themselves pro-life because actually, as mentioned above, they have no interest once the baby is born. They are only anti-abortion, not pro-life. Controlling s.o.b.s!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 22, 2012 19:26:06 GMT
Hear Hear...I just wish that contraception were more freely available to the people who need it, that sex education and the responsibility and respect for ones' own body was something taught in loving homes and schools, and that we weren't allowing extremists to dictate how we live our lives.
Abortion is a distressing procedure that is never taken lightly, generally it's 'last chance saloon' time. Now that medical science has the ability to preserve the lives of the 23-24 week gestation premature baby then it is hard to deal with late abortion. I don't agree with forced abortions either.
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Post by joanne28 on Jun 25, 2012 0:51:17 GMT
Completely agree with you regarding contraception and education. That's another thing that drives me berserk about anti-abortionists - they are usually anti-birth control for those having premarital sex. Better to have a bunch of pregnant 16 year olds, who then keep their babies. You would think if they were so sincere about being anti-abortion that they would welcome contraception that would stop the possibility.
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Post by rikita on Jun 29, 2012 19:54:00 GMT
i must agree that it is noticeable that often those, who are strictly against abortion (and call themselves "pro-life") seem to think on the other hand, that once you are born you have to fend for yourself, and if you are in a bad situation you were probably lazy (nevermind that you might just be a year or two old). also noticeable that a lot of pro-life people seem to be in favor of the death penalty.
as for abortion itself, i am not quite sure where i stand - i think there has to be a right to it, but at the same time i am not sure when and how and so on... it is a very difficult issue, i think...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 19:57:47 GMT
Even those of us who completely support it are a bit dismayed when it is merely used as a form of birth control rather than taking the pill or using condoms.
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Post by rikita on Jun 30, 2012 9:39:18 GMT
yeah that is basically what i mean... that, and that just for myself i am not sure i could ever do that... though i suppose those that use it as a form of birth control are really just very few people.
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Post by Kimby on Jun 30, 2012 14:27:55 GMT
Abortion should be a last resort, but must be available. The gestation police should be forced to ADOPT any unwanted babies that they force to be delivered against the will of the woman who became pregnant unintentionally.
Also, it's not just 16-year-olds. Girls are "maturing" at 10 and 11 years of age, when they still need mothering themselves.
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Post by rikita on Jul 6, 2012 20:04:45 GMT
actually i read the wikipedia list of "youngest birth mothers" recently, and the articles linked to in the footnotes...
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