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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 16:50:31 GMT
Meanwhile, I am now up to a grand total of 2 posts using the new Frommer's site after the revolution over there. And the first post was just a test.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 3, 2013 19:12:49 GMT
The moderators must be doing something back there. I've noticed that TT is refreshingly free of the general spam that clogs up other forums. Manhood enhancement, Viagra, fake Rolexs, cheap Nike shoes, Russian ladies want to meet you, Nigerian scammers, that sort of stuff.
Nutrax
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Edited because I used the wrong macro to enter my sig line.
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Post by bjd on Jun 4, 2013 7:08:20 GMT
I never used to get that kind of spam on TT, but a lot more advertising for LP stuff than now.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 4, 2013 19:26:02 GMT
Well, at least one useful thing has come out of the disabling of PMs. No more PMs from those West African ladies who just know in their heart that they have found their soulmate in me (and 300 other TT users).
Nutrax
The plural of anecdote is not data.
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Post by gabriele on Jun 9, 2013 21:41:42 GMT
9 June regards posted a brief note about air traffic controllers in France causing a 50% cut in flights for a couple days. Having been in situations when a potential strike would be close to disaster, I did more research and found an article with all the pertinent info in the Mirror (not my usual choice on newspapers). I cited it, copied it, and added a few personal comments and clicked to post. The post got hung up in la-la land and the page stayed stuck where it was. I had other things to do so I did them and came back to find it was still circling the airport so I copied the text and refreshed the page and was taken to the header page. There, in my list of posts, was the errant thread. Went to it and found Adreas had edited it and posted it...which really pissed me off. Here was my reply to him: "Andreas, why was this edited? Some people don't want to have to go to another website just to read the news? If there is a legal reason then guidance should be given to forum members about such things. I've been waiting hours to free up my screen (it was stuck on 'send' and didn't receive a notice that it was being subject to scrutiny by mods. A response is requested. Thank you." Here's the thread: www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2326219&messageID=20886798#20886798His comment on it: "Edited by: Andreas_at_LP A brief excerpt with a link to the website ' I am so angry I could spit...but it wouldn't reach that far. Do we now have a a gestapho to determine what we can and can't post from other sources? Is it to save space? Some people don't WANT to be given a link (I know people who have complained in their reples to information provided that they don't have time to look at all the links people have spent time looking up [the woman from Australia that's trying to bike all over France---very unappreciative, demanding sort wo won't get anymore assistance from me]. And if they're aiming at the prtable device people, they won't appreciate links either. If I don't get a response on-thread do you think I should take it to a complaint site on TT? thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 22:50:30 GMT
I was already slightly annoyed in the first place that regards would even post that "information." He has lived in France long enough to know that 1) most strike notices in France are cancelled before the strike date and 2) when there is an ATC strike, the 50% cancellation of flights is almost exclusively short haul flights of little interest while all long haul flights are maintained -- so I think it is simply scaremongering to tell people such things when it will create needless panic.
I have just about given up on LP now so I took the easy way out and did not try to intervene at all.
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Post by waterhazardjack on Jun 9, 2013 23:14:28 GMT
Meanwhile, I am now up to a grand total of 2 posts using the new Frommer's site after the revolution over there. And the first post was just a test. By revolution, Kerouac, do you mean the recent return of 83 year old AF to the helm?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2013 10:09:16 GMT
Well, they certainly didn't hesitate to dump every single post from the past. When you look at countries like Estonia, there is a grand total of zero threads.
Who know if AF is really doing anything? His name seems to have been brought back to increase credibility, but I don't know if it was a wise gamble. Most of the people who still have faith in that name are as old as he is!
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Post by bjd on Jun 10, 2013 11:24:30 GMT
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Post by gabriele on Jun 11, 2013 7:54:33 GMT
The oldest post on France in Frommer's is 41 days old...but there are definitely people following this part...Kerouac2's post on the Most Beautiful Village has garnered 498 views and 49 posts....with heady discussions such as one used to find on TT...and it was originally posted on 5 June...
I think the issue is to get valid posters to ask good questions, I think the responses will follow...this is certainly better than Rough Guide's forum.
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Post by gabriele on Jun 11, 2013 21:47:29 GMT
Cross posting to WE as those forum members seem to ask good questions. Lonely Planet hires CTO from within in first leadership move in post-BBC world skift.com/2013/06/11/lonely-planet-makes-first-moves-in-post-bbc-world/Comment from SKIFT: "LP has a formidable challenge ahead of it as Google has signified that it wants to own travel and has the resources to reach consumers at every step of the way as well as hire whoever it wants to make this happen. " I tried posting this on TT in the All About LP forum and it got lost. Posted on WE...see if it lasts.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 12, 2013 18:48:17 GMT
If you are quoting from a news web site, it is most likely copyrighted. I have seen other posts similarly edited down to a "fair use" quote and a link.
The Guidelines say: We reserve the right to remove posts that: •Break the law or condone or encourage unlawful activity. This includes breach of copyright, defamation and contempt of court.
I think LP is sensitive to copyright issues because of the whole Nick Greenwood/Joe Cummings thing.
Nutrax
The plural of anecdote is not data.
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Post by gabriele on Jun 19, 2013 14:15:23 GMT
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 21, 2013 0:41:30 GMT
I posted a reply. Let's see...
Nutrax
The plural of anecdote is not data.
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Post by bjd on Jun 21, 2013 7:05:45 GMT
Yep, it's there Nutrax. As well as a "what Nutrax said" post just afterwards.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 28, 2013 0:22:29 GMT
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Post by anshjain97 on Jun 28, 2013 13:27:33 GMT
" if you'd like to contact any of them please email community@lonelyplanet.com"
Very neat. Because IF you e-mail, you'll spend the next 1 year wondering if they have just ignored or your email is stuck in limbo. Then you may forget about it...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 16:40:34 GMT
And of course since it's a community mailbox, everybody sees the messages destined for anybody else.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 30, 2013 13:49:25 GMT
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jul 11, 2013 2:44:54 GMT
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Post by gabriele on Jul 21, 2013 13:57:27 GMT
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Post by gabriele on Jul 21, 2013 13:59:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 17:57:17 GMT
All of this is quite dismal news albeit not unexpected.
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Post by gabriele on Mar 29, 2016 9:57:43 GMT
Feeling rather dissatisfied with TT at this time (March 2016) I wanted to read some honest discussions about TT...I'd forgotten what this kind of honesty feels like. Rereading Nutrax's post #619 rings so many bells and having tried my best I feel as if it was wasted effort.
When I replied to a poster who spent his post complaining about how 2nd world people were treated--(when the OP had already reported how easily his interview for a visa for Greece went) I flagged his post because I thought it was off topic. I got a reply from Shi-whoever saying no, it wasn't off topic and rather than reply as I did, I should just flag it, that that's their job, doing the moderating, not ours. I replied to her and explained that I had written because I was proud of what the WE forum does and tries to do and that we had been successful in helping the OP....(defending the brand, as it were). She disagreed. I guess we're not supposed to stick up for the work we do and show our successes...and then I got a very nasty reply from nokka who had complained. I have been called a troll and the mods allow it to stand, now this...I feel as if I'm back working at a dead-end job where we're not supposed to have feelings or self-respect, just keep churning the advice out, and for LP's sake don't make any waves.
I had read the day before that the Observer (linked to The Guardian) is no longer allowing comments on their articles. Supposedly it requires too much moderation because of all the hate posts...but Guardian readers have said they think it's more than that and many only come to an article to read the comments. And I'm seeing that from Planet Jane in the General Chat thread on Old TT members where she's threating people with being suspended...and I didn't find the conversations that challenging.
I confess I am curious about how many people have left TT in the past year...I know Ansh is in a very good school in India and that no doubt takes much of his time, I hope he's doing well. I'll have to check out his blog and see where's he's travelling to, or has gone to recently.
I don't know that this will come to anyone's attention but I just needed to feel that I could actually communicate with real people without worrying about the Mods looking over my shoulder all the time.
K2, what other forums do you find worth your time now? Nutrax, I hope you do continue to contribute on TT, especially the California and Health subjects...which are pretty uncontroversial/safe.
I'm not planning on leaving TT but I'm also not planning on staying.
I guess my biggest nightmare is that Brad Kelley supported Trump. If that were true I couldn't support LP at all...
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Post by Kimby on May 23, 2021 12:16:11 GMT
As I gear up to go to Iceland in 45 days, I’m wondering which travel forums are worth visiting anymore, in general, and for Iceland in particular.
Since Mr. Kimby has burnt out on world travel I haven’t had much need to visit travel forums other than the online community at Any Port.
What are anyone’s favorite travel forums for travel info?
Thanks!
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2021 15:14:04 GMT
Frankly, all of the big travel forums are pretty much in hibernation and even the ones that still have some traffic are filled with a mixture of the regulars remeniscing about their past trips and stupid people total idiots asking impossible questions along the lines of "I'm planning a trip next month. Will everything be normal then or will I need a test and what's a good restaurant? Are they open?"
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Post by Kimby on May 23, 2021 15:18:58 GMT
Which forum would have the best archive of Iceland info, then, in your esteemed opinion, K2?
We will be “on our own” for 4 dinners and 6 lunches, so I’m most interested in dining tips in various locales. Most of the rest will be handled by the tour company.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 24, 2021 4:57:41 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Trip Advisor has the biggest forum, but the search function is total crap. If you use it, be sure to sort the replies by date -- otherwise you wind up with posts from 2003.
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Post by breeze on May 24, 2021 12:30:44 GMT
Kimby, I've been looking at the Rick Steves France forum for a while and I like the civility there, as well as finding good information. TripAdvisor is contentious too much of the time. I like Fodors but it's not very active these days (speaking only of the France forum). I looked at the Rick Steves Iceland forum last night with you in mind just to see if there's been recent activity and yes, there has been. Enjoy your planning; for me, that's when the trip starts.
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Post by Kimby on May 24, 2021 13:51:25 GMT
Thanks, K2 and breeze. Will look into it.
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