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Post by bjd on Sept 26, 2009 12:27:31 GMT
Spindrift -- like all digital cameras, the Sony is simple enough for ordinary pictures. If you want to get a bit more complicated, then you have to fiddle around a bit and read the instructions.
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Post by rikita on Sept 26, 2009 16:57:35 GMT
ah, my dad has a lumix and seems to be happy with it. not sure which one though. the son of a friend has a sony (again not sure which one) and seems happy with it too.
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Post by Kimby on Dec 23, 2009 20:50:03 GMT
(coming to this thread very late)
I vote for viewfinder for several reasons already given, but mainly because middle-aged eyes cannot focus at arms length or closer, and I have great difficulty without reading glasses seeing whether what I am trying to photograph is even IN the view, much less in good composition.
The only time I use the LCD is when I hand it to someone else to take a picture, or when I go beyond the 3x optical zoom to use the digital zoom which requires the LCD display to be on. But since I am outside when using the long zoom, even if I put on glasses there is often too much glare to see the picture I am composing in the LCD. So I may resort to using the viewfinder to make sure the osprey on its nest will at least be in the picture.
I'd be lost without a viewfinder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2009 19:36:52 GMT
I am inching up to the purchase of my next camera and I wonder how I will use it...
Photography hardly changed for 50 years and now it's like computers -- there are new functions and perfections every three months.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2010 23:15:30 GMT
My new camera no longer has a view finder. I have adapted to it in most situations, but I have been very unhappy a few times in bright sunlight when I could really see almost nothing on the screen. But nothing is perfect, is it?
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Post by bazfaz on Mar 21, 2010 9:48:19 GMT
My new camera no longer has a view finder. I have adapted to it in most situations, but I have been very unhappy a few times in bright sunlight when I could really see almost nothing on the screen. But nothing is perfect, is it? When we were in Crete our neighbour was jealous of our old digital camera which had a viewfinder as well as a not very impressive LCD. The sun was bright and he could see nothing on his LCD whereas Mrs Faz - well, you have seen the results.
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Post by bjd on Mar 21, 2010 9:52:30 GMT
I am on my second digital camera and they have both had viewfinders. They are both bridge cameras though, not just point and shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2010 8:41:03 GMT
I think I am slowly but sure learning to shield the screen better with my hand when it is too bright, but you still have just hope that you are getting the picture right because there is no way that you can see the details in the sunshine.
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Post by hwinpp on Mar 26, 2010 7:52:19 GMT
Serves you right, Jack. I don't think anybody recommended getting a camera without a viewfinder.
Still haven't got a new one yet myself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2010 14:20:35 GMT
I didn't want to get a camera without a viewfinder, but they have disappeared from the small models, and I wanted a small model. Now I have my camera in my jacket pocket at all times so that I can inflict all sorts of new things on the internet.
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Post by spindrift on Mar 26, 2010 15:15:28 GMT
If I had money to spare I would have two cameras, one with a viewfinder (and powerful zoom lens) and a small digital that takes good pictures in bad light.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2010 20:07:16 GMT
My other one (with the viewfinder) still works just fine, but I confess that I have not used it since I bought the new one. I think I will test them both soon to compare photos of the same items. But I know that the new one will win the contest.
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Post by rikita on Mar 28, 2010 19:55:49 GMT
well if i had money i'd get a second camera - but also with view finder. just a smaller one that i can take along more easily when climbing or similar - like one i can just hang on my harness, and that isn't that great so i don#t have to worry as much about hurting it... on the other hand, if i had money, i'd first buy another lense for my camera, though i'd have trouble deciding which one - as there are occasions i want a tele lense, others where i want a macro lense and yet others where i want a wide angle lense...
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Post by Kimby on Mar 30, 2010 16:37:19 GMT
My new camera no longer has a view finder. I have adapted to it in most situations, but I have been very unhappy a few times in bright sunlight when I could really see almost nothing on the screen. But nothing is perfect, is it? Perhaps today's photographers will go back to the old large-format photographer's trick of pulling a black cloth over their head and the camera...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2010 17:10:15 GMT
Sounds like a good idea.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 30, 2010 17:22:59 GMT
and perhaps we middle-agers will have to attach a pair of reading glasses to the dark cloth, so we can SEE the screen once the glare is gone. I could not survive without my viewfinder.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2010 7:09:07 GMT
I'm adapting quite well when there is not a glare.
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Post by hwinpp on Apr 2, 2010 7:48:10 GMT
For my recent trip to Indonesia I borrowed a Casio Exilim, one of the newer models, from one of my colleagues. No viewfinder and the pictures seem quite lousy. You'll see when I've uploaded them.
I think I'm going more and more for the Lumix (which used to be Panasonic I think), it's got a very good sensor and the lense is , incredibly, from Carl Zeiss Jena. The best money can buy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2010 7:57:43 GMT
Yes, that's what I have.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 2, 2010 8:24:43 GMT
Is it good in poor light outdoors? and badly lit interiors? What is the capacity of the zoom?
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Post by hwinpp on Apr 2, 2010 8:50:58 GMT
Sorry, not a Carl Zeiss lens but a Leica lens. Just as good if I may say so. On the website they say it's got a 12x optical zoom. How do they fit it in? Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS3, seems to be their newest one. If you're willing to get a model from last year it'll be substantially cheaper.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 2, 2010 8:59:52 GMT
A 12 x optical zoom? well then, that's the one for me. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2010 9:19:15 GMT
Funny, HW, when you wrote 'Zeiss' I read 'Leica' anyway, just the whole 'good German lens' connection. Yes, that is a photo of my camera, and to reply to Spindrift, it is very good in rather dark setting. The only thing to watch out for is that the automatic flash resets itself from time to time even when you have deactivated it.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 2, 2010 9:31:16 GMT
thanks...now please help me to get to grips with my new laptop.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 6:41:41 GMT
Just wondering -- does anybody still have a viewfinder here?
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Post by Kimby on Apr 21, 2013 6:54:41 GMT
I have two, my older Kodak Z760 and my newer Canon G 12. Viewfinder was ESSENTIAL on the Kodak outdoors as the LCD was not good in bright light, so I insisted on a viewfinder for my new camera. Ironically the Canon's LCD is so bright and clear that I almost never use the viewfinder.
It might also have something to do with keeping my specs around my neck so I can focus on the LCD. Before I didn't usually have reading glasses at hand so the viewfinder worked better with my presbyopia.
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Post by mossie on Apr 21, 2013 7:46:35 GMT
I have the Panasonic Lumix TZ25, the only drawback is being able to see the LCD in bright light. Even so I am contemplating the new TZ40 which will download photos via WiFi direct to the PC. It also has a better LCD, although I don't suppose that will make much difference. I must discipline myself to wait a while until the price is more reasonable
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2013 7:49:21 GMT
We are all still struggling with the problem of bright light on those screens.
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Post by lugg on Apr 21, 2013 9:02:59 GMT
My FZ 45 has a viewfinder, ironically I have only just discovered it. I really must book onto a photography course to get the best from this camera, because reading the instruction booklet just sends me to sleep.
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Post by nautiker on Apr 21, 2013 9:19:18 GMT
I gave up on a viewfinder in order to have a more compact camera (a digital VF was available however awfully grizzly) and not very happy with the situation, guess the next one will have one again...
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