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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 17:47:08 GMT
One of the things that we have not taken into account and I hope is the case for why we haven't heard from Bixa is she is probably out rounding up local talent to entertain all of you for the Grand and Glorious gathering there. Bixa loves to throw a party and she is the ultimate hostess as some of you know. These fetes take much time and preparation. Everything from entertainment, food, decor, and I heard some rumblings about a special guest who is scheduled to appear. For all I know they may be jumping out of a teapot or some such Brit thing. So, we need to be patient and just wait and see.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 17:48:55 GMT
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! QUIET!! She just apppeared.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 28, 2017 17:52:11 GMT
Thank crunchy (as Myrt would say)
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Post by bixaorellana on May 28, 2017 18:06:20 GMT
I am here, albeit in a wan and reduced state. I'd really forgotten how it felt to be really, really sick and don't ever want to repeat the experience.
The big triumph today was discovering that I could read, a nice activity that one can enjoy lying down and also that I was able a while ago to make some toast and hot chocolate. I could only handle about half of it, but the very fact that I could face it without gagging indicates the road to recovery.
Cheery and LaGatta, I have been drinking water throughout.
Mick, no way would I subject another human to what needed mopping.
Thank you all for your concern and kind thoughts. I would give you the kissy face emoticon, but I don't want y'all getting my germs.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 28, 2017 18:12:25 GMT
Thank you for letting us know you're OK...see you soon x
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Post by mossie on May 28, 2017 18:41:58 GMT
That is a great relief
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 18:56:38 GMT
The Bixa I know is not the whiny type so you must have been really sick. I'm (and T as well) are so glad to know you're feeling better.
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Post by Kimby on May 28, 2017 19:09:07 GMT
Welcome back to the land of the living, Bixa! We missed you.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 28, 2017 19:11:13 GMT
Damn, I paid for a big procession in Oaxaca for her even though she wasn't there to take pictures.
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Post by whatagain on May 28, 2017 19:28:29 GMT
Wine. Cures everything.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 28, 2017 19:53:53 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on May 28, 2017 20:05:56 GMT
I am here, albeit in a wan and reduced state. I'd really forgotten how it felt to be really, really sick and don't ever want to repeat the experience. The big triumph today was discovering that I could read, a nice activity that one can enjoy lying down and also that I was able a while ago to make some toast and hot chocolate. I could only handle about half of it, but the very fact that I could face it without gagging indicates the road to recovery. Cheery and LaGatta, I have been drinking water throughout. Mick, no way would I subject another human to what needed mopping. Thank you all for your concern and kind thoughts. I would give you the kissy face emoticon, but I don't want y'all getting my germs. On behalf of our germs I must apologise. That's not very welcoming of them.
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Post by lagatta on May 28, 2017 22:31:49 GMT
They could have been suspicious migrant germs she smuggled over...
Bixa, the other person couldn't even keep water down. That is why we were worried.
Yes, pretty soon you can have a bit of wine.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 29, 2017 2:29:07 GMT
Right now the thought of wine, indeed anything more robust than water, only gives me the shudders.
Kerouac, if that was my funeral procession you funded, someone else would need to be there to take pictures.
I am extremely touched and grateful to all of you for your concern. Thank you!
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Post by bixaorellana on May 29, 2017 12:36:29 GMT
I know you all are on the edge of your seats hoping for an update, as what is more fascinating than the disgusting unfolding of a gastric distress sequence. So anyway, this is what I might or might not have had and I luckily didn't have any of the more dramatic symptoms: www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs255/en/A little while ago I made some oral rehydration liquid and have consumed most of the liter. (a liter being the only sizable container available). This stuff is miraculous, so do take note. Some of the recipes I found used half the amount of salt & most used a couple of teaspoons less of sugar. I don't have any measuring spoons here, so used a regular coffee/tea spoon & seven spoonfuls of sugar and a scant teaspoon of salt. Also added some Tesco's Lemon Squash concentrate I found in the cupboard, so it tastes even more delightfully like Gatorade. The results have been so satisfying that I don't even mind the taste. For instance, one of my physical characteristics is very prominent veins in my hands and feet. These had faded to flat faint little blue tracings, but are plumping back up nicely. I also don't feel nearly as weak nor as psychotically attached to bathroom proximity. www.food.com/recipe/oral-rehydration-salts-230966?ftab=reviews
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Post by lagatta on May 29, 2017 13:48:10 GMT
I'm so happy that you are doing better. I had that a while ago, but while it was gruesome, the symptoms abated quickly and I could eat normally and even drink a bit of coffee (essential, I wanted to mainline caffeine) and wine.
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Post by fumobici on May 30, 2017 3:52:03 GMT
What dreadful timing to take ill to start an overseas adventure! I hope you left enough wiggle room in your itinerary to absorb such a misfortune.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 30, 2017 11:50:33 GMT
You are kind, Fumobici. Thanks, yes -- my itinerary is pretty much all wiggle room except for the 8th and 9th, which are sacred, much-desired obligations. I don't return home until July 10, so am luxuriating in the knowledge that a few lost days won't ruin the trip. LaGatta, I want all the symptoms to go away now. I truly understand why this crap is called food poisoning.
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Post by questa on May 30, 2017 14:00:47 GMT
As your tummy gets to cope with food, eat bananas. They contain pectin which puts a soft film over the surface of the bowel and soothes and heals the inflamed lining. They also have Potassium which your body needs to energize and make you feel brighter as your electrolytes sort themselves out again.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 30, 2017 14:54:57 GMT
I rarely attribute the condition to "food poisoning" since I think it is more a case of iffy food that would not affect a healthy person (other than perhaps disgusting them) combined with an impending viral or bacterial event that was just waiting to happen.
I have also seen so many cases of psychosomatic food poisoning in my life (which I would never imagine in the case of Bixa since I'm pretty sure that she is like me and would eat just about anything that looks tasty, even if it is still squirming). In all of my group business trips to Cairo, every single person who was afraid of the food became deathly ill within a few days and those of us who embraced the local cuisine (including street food) had absolutely no problems. I should mention that those who were afraid of contamination ate their meals (when they were able to eat) exclusively in the hotel, and every single hotel had a name like "Hilton," "Sheraton," etc.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 30, 2017 17:07:59 GMT
I tend to agree with you on that, Kerouac. Living in Mexico, I get to hear all the permutations of people who've practically decided that they're going to have Moctezuma's Revenge. They hit the ground running, gobbling up fried food and gulping margartitas, but are then positive that they're sick because Mexico is inherently dirty.
My theory is that, in a bid to lose weight & to make sure I was healthy for my trip by spending the last couple of months living off of the purest of foods prepared in my own home, I turned myself into a despicable wimp who was slain by the first bug down the path.
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Post by bjd on May 30, 2017 17:49:05 GMT
Maybe it was your in-flight meal? You know, those peanuts can be deadly if the bags are not refrigerated until just before being served. (I assume you flew on an American airline.)
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Post by kerouac2 on May 30, 2017 18:04:57 GMT
I don't know of any airline that has served peanuts in at least 10 years, due to the peanut allergy people who claim they will die if a peanut is eaten at the other end of the plane. They all give mini cracker things or tiny pretzels these days.
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Post by mich64 on May 30, 2017 18:53:27 GMT
Have you been drinking water from the tap Bixa? With asking this I by no means think the water would not be perfectly safe, it is just a difference in water can cause many stomach/intestinal issues for some people (and pets). Even travelling to different towns/cities in my Province, I tend to get an upset stomach. I understand your situation is more than this, but perhaps contributing to it? I often drink bottled water when abroad, but I am not sure if that makes any difference as the water source must be the same region I am in?
I used to bring bottles of my own tap water for our dog as he too would have reactions and when we began bringing our own he was so much better.
Travelling internationally, we have had a few occasions of stomach issues and I agree that changes in meal choices (I am always eager to try new things) causes our own problems, but I will keep on enjoying!
I hope with each day you are feeling better and better Bixa!
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Post by bixaorellana on May 30, 2017 21:41:23 GMT
I wish I could say X is what did it and we'll all be better off avoiding X from now on, but I really don't know.
In retrospect I do know that something wasn't right before I got demonstrably sick, mostly manifesting as getting really full without eating very much and later as feeling really full without having eaten anything at all.
One of my claims to fame is my cast-iron stomach, so I'm feeling betrayed by and angry at my own constitution.
I did have peanuts on the Aeromexico flight from Oaxaca to Mexico City. The long flight was on British Airways, where I enjoyed the luxuries of business class. Probably the shock of being treated well by an airline threw me into a tailspin.
Mich, I've been drinking tap water since I got to London. Right now I'm having an Old Jamaica Extra Fiery Ginger Beer which I am convinced will finally cure me.
Just read up the page & see I missed Questa's excellent suggestion of bananas. Oh well, I'll get those tomorrow. Thanks, Questa!
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Post by questa on May 31, 2017 0:12:15 GMT
We know that we are surrounded by bacteria all our lives. As kids we self immunize ourselves to all the bugs in our environment. When we step (?fly) outside our environment and meet new bugs we are more likely to get sick. However, I agree with the theory of 'if you expect to get sick, you will'. Also, a change of diet will cause TD (Travelers Diarrhea) which is usually over in a few days. I also think that not enough emphasis is placed on washing of hands. In my cafe we had 2 wash basins with soap and towels, one near the toilet and one near the front of the restaurant. This is required by law in Indonesia and is surprisingly adhered to from Hilton to truck stops.
I watched for years...as the locals entered they would wash before sitting down, but the tourists would sit down and order their food. Then they fiddled with the ends of drink straws, eat nuts or crackers etc and not remember they had been touching bus and stair railings, money, items in markets, shaking hands and patting little kids.
The law also says that all ice must be made from pure water. We made ours from bottled water but there are now certified ice factories that supply big places.
I wished at times I could put up a sign saying "It's not the food, it's the fingers!"
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Post by mickthecactus on May 31, 2017 7:25:06 GMT
We know that we are surrounded by bacteria all our lives. As kids we self immunize ourselves to all the bugs in our environment. When we step (?fly) outside our environment and meet new bugs we are more likely to get sick. However, I agree with the theory of 'if you expect to get sick, you will'. Also, a change of diet will cause TD (Travelers Diarrhea) which is usually over in a few days. I also think that not enough emphasis is placed on washing of hands. In my cafe we had 2 wash basins with soap and towels, one near the toilet and one near the front of the restaurant. This is required by law in Indonesia and is surprisingly adhered to from Hilton to truck stops. I watched for years...as the locals entered they would wash before sitting down, but the tourists would sit down and order their food. Then they fiddled with the ends of drink straws, eat nuts or crackers etc and not remember they had been touching bus and stair railings, money, items in markets, shaking hands and patting little kids. The law also says that all ice must be made from pure water. We made ours from bottled water but there are now certified ice factories that supply big places. I wished at times I could put up a sign saying "It's not the food, it's the fingers!" I find a similar thing with sea sickness. Neither I nor Mrs Cactus suffer from that and we've been on trips where it seems most of the other passengers are heaving. We just get on board and go and have a meal and a few drinks and ignore it. Worked every time (so far).
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Post by bixaorellana on May 31, 2017 7:34:51 GMT
You are so right about hand washing, Questa. I'm always amazed that people who seem fastidious are so oblivious to the basic necessity of keeping their hands clean. I myself am practically Lady Macbeth & intend to stay that way.
As for you, my smug non-vomiting friend ~ sea sickness has to do with the inner ear, as does the nausea of pregnancy. I did have the pregnancy thing in spades but because of never having suffered motion sickness I never worried about that. I'd crossed the Atlantic on a passenger ship as a child and experienced nothing in the way of motion discomfort. Flash forward to the nineties, to Bixa crossing the Gulf of Mexico on a 40' trawler, writhing on the deck in agony and plotting ways to sink the #%^&* boat to end her misery. I'm fighting down the desire to see you experience sea sickness just once so you'll be lots less blithe about it.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 31, 2017 7:59:53 GMT
I suffer from motion sickness..always have. Flying and sailing are the worst for me but coaches, cars etc are sometimes not good. Thing about sailing is that you're stuck on the ship usually..I take motion sickness meds altho they make me sleepy...and wear wrist bands which help a little. My beloved adores being on ship and has been dropping huge hints about another cruise ever since I retired...but it's misery for me half the time altho I do adapt after a few days.
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Post by mossie on Jun 2, 2017 18:44:49 GMT
Motion sickness is not good, I found I was practically cured after having my appendix removed. You have to go with the flow and not fight against the motion, which is the natural thing to do.
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