'Eat pork or go hungry' - French NF leader tell children.

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'Eat pork or go hungry': France's National Front leader tells school canteens to stop offering religious alternatives to Muslim children

Far-right National Front leader Marine Le Pen said on Friday it would prevent schools from offering non-pork alternatives to Muslim pupils in the 11 towns it won in local elections, saying such arrangements were contrary to France's secular values.



France's republic has a strict secular tradition enforceable by law, but faith-related demands have risen in recent years, especially from the country's five-million-strong Muslim minority, the largest in Europe.



'We will not accept any religious demands in school menus,' Le Pen told RTL radio. 'There is no reason for religion to enter the public sphere, that's the law.'



Pork is forbidden under Jewish and Muslim dietary laws

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[lagatta]

That isn't secularism, it is just being nasty. Of course she is against vegetarian food as well, I guess?

I have a non-observant Jewish friend in the 19th arrondissement of Paris, and there was no pork served at the school his daughter attended, simply because there were large Maghrebi communities, both Muslim and Jewish, in the area, and the food would have simply gone uneaten.

I'm very much a secularist, but like any concept, it can be misused.

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Most of the "expert" (who are they?) are claiming that this will soon prove to be impossible not only due to general outcry but simply for financial reasons. If huge numbers of parents refuse to have their children eat at the school lunchroom, they will lose lots of money, which is one of the things that these new administrations have promised not to do. Since the cities won by the Front National are also cities with a large population of immigrant origin, it is a very dangerous game.

The last time they won 4 cities (rather than 11), not only were they swept out of power at the very next election, but half of them didn't even last that long. Faced with reality, most of the people in the Front National elected to some position of power leave that political party because they finally realize what real life is like when they see it from the top rather than from the bottom. And, guess what? -- the others were thrown out for corruption.

This time the big question is what they learned from the past. Marine Le Pen claims that they won't make the same mistakes -- but they are already starting to do so, in less than one week.

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Are school lunches subsidized in France?

Do school children pay anything for their lunches?

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They pay something but not much. It is based obviously on the revenue of the parents. A quick check on the internet informed me that completely indigent families in Paris pay 0.14€ for a school meal, but the next level quickly jumps to 0.87€. If I were still working and had children, I would be in the top price range which is 5.20€ per meal.

I am not sure if meals in smaller cities are more expensive or cheaper. Paris is more expensive to live in, but it is also ultra rich and can offer more things.

*Okay, I just looked at the prices for Béziers, the largest city now controlled by the Front National and saw that prices start at 1.02€ and go as high as 3.66€.

[lagatta]

It should be emphasized that these are balanced, full meals, not crapola cafeteria foods.

That also seems to cover all ages, from wee ones to teenagers.

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lagatta it would affect vegetarians too, yes. As well as Jews and Sikhs (strict Sikhs don't eat beef). I wonder if it would affect people with certain allergies to some foods and the disabled who may not be able to eat certain foods? I suppose in her twisted way of thinking they can ALL go hungry.

And what next? What if her or her party were elected to run the country one day? Will we see a Nazi nation that reflects what Hitler started off?

Are we likely to see more far right wing parties in other countries being elected and winning seats? Just taking a quick look around at the conversations going on around the internet, it seems to me that even the most level headed are being swayed into hating Muslims. Whether by truth or fabrication seems to matter not, as long as the haters can put their agenda out there.

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Take a look at the Hungarian elections last week if you want to see things going wrong.

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I just had a quick look, I see what you mean. The Roma people are the culprits in their eyes. And in the US, the hate is directed equally towards blacks and Muslims.

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I think (I hope) that all of this has to do with the economy. All of these racist, anti-Semitic, etc. surges that happen from time to time are linked to unemployment figures and other economic injustices. If the Ukraine economy had been booming, Crimea would not have wanted to leave the country, for example.

I just do not understand why politicians, even from the left, never have the courage to say that what is happening is not at all the fault of immigrants. Just about every statistic ever collected concerning the industrialized countries has proven that immigrants contribute far more to the economy than they take.

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Exactly! So good to hear the voice of sense and reason. It's so missing in people nowadays, many are simply too afraid or too ignorant or can't be bothered to figure this out for themselves. Even though history can tell us and teach us what is really going on. Some don't want to lose friends and so keep buttoned up with what they see right in front of their eyes.

It happens every-time there is a downturn in the economy. Money really is the root of all evil. People lose jobs, and have go through hardships, and then... they start looking for something or someone to blame. Immigrants, especially those that look and believe an act different to 'us' are the ones doing it all.

And instead of the politicians having the courage to tell their countrymen/women that that is not the case, they do a turn-coat. As long as they can win the votes and have the POWER, then that is all that matters. Politicians, above all else, are power-hungry.

Today, I was thinking 'wouldn't it be peachy to have white skin, then I can sit here and point fingers at others for all my woes, and I'll get patted on the back for doing so'. The only problem would be that I dearly love my light brown skin, I don't think I'd want to sacrifice that just to be pale and so gain social unwritten privileges.

[fumobici]

The so-called French left--at least the mainstream--have, as dutiful servants of crooked gazillionaire financiers, embraced mindless neoliberal austerity and misery for the most precariously positioned. Pretty much the opposite of what any actual socialists would do. I guess there's really not much one can do when crackpot Randian right wing Chicago School economists, the Bundesbank and Mrs. Merkel can dictate fiscal policy from outside the country. As George Soros has explained, the only answer besides dissolving the currency union and restoring sovereign currencies is to keep the Euro but kick the Germans out of the EZ and stop them propagating Euromisery to prop up their extractive export economy. Hollande appears worse than useless in this scenario, no wonder the electorate are forced to look elsewhere. If the French left were doing their job, the National Front wouldn't be more than a curious anomaly. Xenophobia and other identity politics are just another handy tool of the oligarchy to divide the electorate into ineffectual factions so they cannot unite to find common purpose against them. Europe is currently being run for the sole benefit of a few thousand (probably only a few hundred really) rich families and stateless rapacious multinational corporations, pretty much exactly as the US is.

Old Europe actually did very well under liberal social democracies for a long time before the systems became hopelessly corrupt.

[patricklondon]

keep the Euro but kick the Germans out of the EZ and stop them propagating Euromisery to prop up their extractive export economy.

You're forgetting that German membership (and bankrolling) of the euro was the price they had to pay for not getting any opposition to reunification of Germany. The last thing anyone wants is a Germany unencumbered to go its own way. As with NATO (whose raison d'être is "To keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down").

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