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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 17, 2018 16:55:20 GMT
Well, I saw a French ad for it starring former French footballer Robert Pires and it was indeed by myheritage.com. My order went through, no problem.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 20, 2018 14:44:31 GMT
So, I already received the DNA kit today and have followed the instructions. It is on its way to Texas. I'm not sure that I approve of having to put my DNA sample in a bag marked "biohazard."
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Post by bjd on Jul 20, 2018 15:23:53 GMT
I saw a special offer on myheritage.com for £59 but it has expired. It also showed Robert Pires.
I started to compare the various genetic offers and that one seems pretty cheap. Does it tell you anything other than what ethnic composition you are? I read that the one from National Geographic rather shows where your ancestors came from 200,000 years ago but I think that is of rather limited interest.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 20, 2018 15:53:45 GMT
Yes, I think the offer expired one day after my order -- it was of course the reason that I jumped on the "special rate" even though I had a suspicion that the offer would be exceptionally extended another few weeks if there were not enough takers.
Here's an example of the results.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 20, 2018 15:59:52 GMT
This is interesting.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 20, 2018 17:22:50 GMT
My DNA lacks that gene for watching excruciating videos!
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Post by bjd on Jul 20, 2018 17:51:04 GMT
I watched them both to see what kind of results they got, but I agree that the first one is particularly awful. Do these people not see how stupid they appear?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 20, 2018 18:04:29 GMT
I'm sure they own selfie sticks.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 20, 2018 18:15:11 GMT
on the selfie sticks. But Bjd, aren't you glad to have learned the universal sign language for googling?
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Post by whatagain on Jul 20, 2018 19:03:10 GMT
I don't need a DNA test. I could have joined the SS just with my looks. I pretend I would never have joined for ethical reasons but one us never sure of that so I will not throw the first stone.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 20, 2018 20:59:34 GMT
The Scholl siblings would also have been accepted into the SS based on their "Aryan" head shape, hair and white skin, but the Nazis beheaded them for their resistance work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_and_Sophie_SchollThis is the very reason I'm not interested in DNA tests in the absence of clues to help cure a rare disease or adopted children seeking their heritage. I have Indigenous relatives, though the Amerindian and Inuit people in my family are through "alliance" (aka screwing, from a one-night-fling to a lifelong companionship) and I am also about one-eighth Sub-saharan African (Obama coloured granddad, from the Caribbean) but I'm still basically from northwestern and southern European descent. I think that these distinctions matter a lot in terms of the oppression and discrimination people have endured, but not in defining us otherwise.
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Post by bjd on Jul 21, 2018 5:02:05 GMT
on the selfie sticks. But Bjd, aren't you glad to have learned the universal sign language for googling? I didn't get that far. Having traced my genealogy back about 200 years (I haven't found earlier records), I suppose that I don't need to do a DNA test. But from appearance, I am harder to guess. When I was younger, in Italy I was taken for Italian, in Spain I was asked for directions, in France I am assumed to be French, and in Poland, everyone assumed I was Polish. Maybe I should do that DNA test after all?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 21, 2018 6:27:02 GMT
I am relatively confident that my genetic origins are mostly from France, Germany and Switzerland even though I am most often taken for Belgian or Dutch. Anyway, on my biological father's side, both of his parents were children of immigrants from the canton of Glarus in Switzerland, a relatively isolated and poor area, which was the reason that people wanted to leave the region. My mother's side was all from Lorraine and Alsace. But that area was overrun so many times over the centuries, that I think that all sorts of mixing is possible, from the Roman legions to the Teutons to why not the Huns?
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 21, 2018 8:24:35 GMT
I did one of these on a whim,but they're only as good as the quality of the information they're compared with, and how that's "granulated". In my case it told me much less than I've worked out over the years from existing paper records - it said 100% western European, whereas I know for a certainty that at least one ancestor some 7 or 8 generations back must have been an African slave in Jamaica. On the other hand I was interested in the longer-term information on the "haplotype" movement out of Africa millennia ago. Both maternal and paternal types went north-east before at some point turning sharply west, either through Asia Minor or somewhere north of the Caucasus. But what turned them back, I wonder? The test also indicated some genetic propensity for a couple of diseases that no-one in the family has ever had, AFAIK. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Post by bjd on Jul 21, 2018 8:25:20 GMT
Did the Huns get that far west? Yes, I think you are right about suspecting mixing -- border areas tend to have lots of traffic in all directions.
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Post by bjd on Aug 10, 2018 8:42:48 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 10, 2018 10:26:51 GMT
Well, I received the results of my DNA test today. Parts of me come from 5 of the 42 world regions that they use for classification.
So, I am :
80.5% west and northern European (that covers France, Benelux, Germany, Switzerland and part of Austria). 7.7% Middle Eastern. Didn't see that coming! 6.4% English (but not Scottish, Irish or Welsh, which are different categories) 3.0% Finnish 2.4% Scandinavian
Definitely interesting.
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Post by bjd on Aug 10, 2018 11:51:44 GMT
Interesting too that they group France, Benelux,Germany, Switzerland and part of Austria together, while they separate English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh. Sounds like bias toward the British Isles.
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Post by mickthecactus on Aug 10, 2018 12:00:32 GMT
What happened to America?
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 10, 2018 12:10:20 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 10, 2018 12:19:53 GMT
Interesting too that they group France, Benelux,Germany, Switzerland and part of Austria together, while they separate English, Scottish, Irish or Welsh. Sounds like bias toward the British Isles. Not necessarily. I think island areas have more isolated DNA. Clearly it depends more on which areas have mixed the most and those that have not. Some of the categories on the list are extremely specific.
Here is the list showing all of the possible zone.
Europe
92,3%
•Europe du Nord et de l'Ouest
92,3%
Ouest et nord-européen
80,5%
Anglais
6,4%
Finlandais
3,0%
Scandinave
2,4%
Irlandais, Écossais et Gallois
0,0%
•Europe de l'Est
0,0%
Baltes
0,0%
Européen de l'Est
0,0%
Peuples des Balkans
0,0%
•Europe du Sud
0,0%
Grec
0,0%
Ibère
0,0%
Italien
0,0%
Sarde
0,0%
Juif ashkénaze
0,0%
Moyen-Orient
7,7%
Moyen-oriental
7,7%
Juif yéménite
0,0%
Afrique
0,0%
•Afrique centrale
0,0%
Centrafricain
0,0%
•Afrique de l'Est
0,0%
Juif Éthiopien
0,0%
Kenyan
0,0%
Maasaï
0,0%
Somalien
0,0%
•Afrique de l'Ouest
0,0%
Nigérian
0,0%
Ouest-africain
0,0%
Sierra-léonais
0,0%
•Afrique du Nord
0,0%
Juif séfarade - Nord-africain
0,0%
Nord-africain
0,0%
Amérindien
0,0%
•Amérique Centrale
0,0%
•Amérique du Sud
0,0%
Autochtones d'Amazonie
0,0%
Asie
0,0%
•Asie centrale
0,0%
Peuples d'Asie centrale
0,0%
•Asie de l'Est
0,0%
Chinois et vietnamien
0,0%
Eskimau / Inuit
0,0%
Japonais
0,0%
Mongol
0,0%
Népalais
0,0%
Philippin, Indonésien et Malaisien
0,0%
Thaïlandais et Cambodgien
0,0%
•Asie de l'Ouest
0,0%
Asiatique de l'Ouest
0,0%
Juive Mizrahi – Iranien/Irakien
0,0%
•Asie du Sud
0,0%
Peuples Sud-asiatiques
0,0%
•Océanie
0,0%
Mélanésien
0,0%
Papou
0,0%
Polynésien
0,0%
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Post by mickthecactus on Aug 10, 2018 17:19:10 GMT
Of course. I was being a bit dim there...
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Post by lagatta on Aug 10, 2018 17:55:31 GMT
Sardinian is a separate group because it was fairly isolated from mainland Italy, much more than Sicily (which everyone from the Greeks, the Normans to the Berbers and Arabo-Berbers invaded) or Corsica from mainland Italy and France. Iberian seems to be a single group, though I'm surprised that there isn't a specific Basque group.
One of my relatives who did the test has some Arawak ancestry of all things.
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 10, 2018 18:03:00 GMT
I think some islands were overrun by everybody and others were ignored, go figure!
I thought it was interesting that there are so many African categories, so one must assume that the "tribes" did not mix with each other as much as might have been expected. I guess the terrain and the vegetation (and maybe even the risks of predators) kept a lot of the groups separate from each other.
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 16, 2018 20:03:44 GMT
So, the company sent me a list of distant relatives according to my DNA. Nearly all of them were from the United States, since of course that is where the greatest number of people have used that company for DNA testing. One was from Switzerland, which is of course the sort of thing that I expected. The person with the highest link to my DNA had the last name of Michel, which was the maiden name of my American grandmother.
Yes, they give you the complete name of all of these people with a clickable link if you want to contact them (but not their direct email, thank god). I have no intention of contacting anybody, yet at the same time, if anybody contacts me, I will be happy to tell them what I know.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 19, 2019 13:15:07 GMT
Last week I ordered a simple vinyl record player so that I would feel less stupid about having kept all of my old vinyl records. I'm sure that there are forgotten treasures to discover, and it even has a USB plug for copying the music. It was delivered today, and I'll probably check it out tomorrow. It's cute, in a little carrying case. Made in Germany, of all places. It was 50% off. imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9163/WKUW0L.jpgOkay fine, but the deliveryman delivered two packages. They both definitely have my name on them. The other package contains a very sophisticated mixer/blender, clearly more expensive than my record player. I neither ordered, nor paid for it. And anyway, I already have a mixer/blender, probably not as nice as this one. I'm wondering how long it will be before they ask for it back. And if they don't?
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 19, 2019 13:41:13 GMT
I think you have to notify the company that it has been delivered in error. If they fail to reply or fail to arrange for it to be picked up within a certain time you can lawfully keep it. Obviously check you bank account to see if they have charged for it. It's happened to me a couple of times whereby once the wrong model of something was delivered and once an extra thing was. Both times I contacted the company and they told me just to keep them and in the first case they sent me the right thing later.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 19, 2019 14:20:30 GMT
I confirmed delivery of my package online and added the information about a second package in the comment box. The question is how do they share information? I bought from a French company and was requested to acknowledge delivery to them, but the two cartons were clearly shipped directly from Germany according to all of the markings...
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 19, 2019 16:12:24 GMT
The company was so thrilled to unload the record player that it sent you the mixer/blender as thanks? What is a "mixer/blender" -- a food processor?
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 19, 2019 16:32:12 GMT
No, a food processor is short and stout (remember the teapot rhyme?). A blender is the tall thing for making cocktails and stuff.
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