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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 4, 2020 7:37:45 GMT
Thank you K2!
If you can get the programme on catch up or whatever it is well worth watching.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 4, 2020 7:44:19 GMT
Do they add nothing to the jambon beurre? A bit of tomato for example?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 4, 2020 7:49:18 GMT
You can add some slices of pickle to a jambon beurre, but if you add lettuce or tomato or cheese, it becomes a mixte, which is a totally different sandwich.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 5, 2020 16:29:37 GMT
As for a jambon beurre, it is simply the most basic (and most popular) sandwich in France -- butter and ham in a length of baguette. It can range from wonderful to extremely disappointing. The average price in Paris is 3.50€, but it is 2.50€ in most of the rest of France. Purely from watching a video on the specific subject of Jambon Beurre, it was advised that should you wish to try this delicious baguette filled with all kinds of ham of your choice, the place to go is "Caractere de Cochon, 42 Rue Charlot. 3arr. The suggestion of choices is Chambon a la Bergomont (cooked ham infused with Bergomont). That would be my choice before comparing it with others.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 5, 2020 16:33:17 GMT
The idea of crossing town for a cheap sandwich is ridiculous, just like the people roaming the city for the "best croissant." Of course the whole point of vloggers and bloggers is to convince people otherwise. That's what they are paid for.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 5, 2020 16:41:26 GMT
Agreed Kerouac. It is merely a suggestion of you are in the area I guess. Its like trying to find the ultimate brasserie for a charcuterie platter. I think the difference would be so small that you shouldn't bother traipsing to the opposite side of town.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 6, 2020 13:12:45 GMT
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Post by mossie on Jul 6, 2020 14:49:14 GMT
Now you are rubbing it in, putting one of my usuals in twice.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 6, 2020 16:03:58 GMT
I am having computer problems! Fixed the photo now...
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Post by tod2 on Jul 6, 2020 16:09:02 GMT
Oh do tell Mossie. Don't deny us the same enjoyment!
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Post by mossie on Jul 6, 2020 19:09:42 GMT
OK it is Les Chics Types in Av Laumiere. Just a bog standard bistro, but I like the people. It has fairly recently been opened in this format so I just hope it continues to be reasonable. The problem with these places is that they can soon go downhill once the initial enthusiasm wears off. Perhaps Kerouac has thoughts on this?
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Post by tod2 on Jul 7, 2020 10:40:55 GMT
Yes I agree Mossie - another factor is the owner is not always in attendance to see the standard is still high. I found this with an old favourite down on Canal Saint-Martin called Le Chaland. I guess Kerouac could give us some other reasons why bistros and cafes have fluctuating standards of food and service.?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 7, 2020 14:27:49 GMT
It's just a tough business that a lot of amateurs think is easy.
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Post by lagatta on Oct 5, 2020 15:54:15 GMT
As per cafés and the new lockdown - How do they define "Bars" in Paris as opposed to cafés? Most cafés offer at least wine and beer.
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 6, 2020 9:30:19 GMT
The line between cafés and bars is very vague in France, just like the line between cafés and restaurants. In the current closing rules, places with full kitchens that can propose full meals can remain open. And therefore most of the cafés in Paris are still open today. On the news yesterday there were some places that said they were closing anyway because three quarters of their customers are just there for coffee or drinks so they cannot make enough money to justify staying open just for meals.
What perplexes me is that I saw that the Starbucks of Paris are still open today.
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Post by lagatta on Oct 6, 2020 11:31:54 GMT
Yes, that was why I was confused about how the authorities determined which had to shut down. As for Starbucks....
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 8, 2020 16:44:12 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 23, 2020 14:02:31 GMT
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Post by bjd on Oct 23, 2020 15:30:05 GMT
How sad.
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 23, 2020 16:36:55 GMT
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Post by bjd on Oct 23, 2020 18:01:19 GMT
That last on is my old neighbourhood !
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 23, 2020 18:02:33 GMT
Yes, I knew I was walking through your old haunting grounds.
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Post by lugg on Oct 23, 2020 18:26:39 GMT
Yes ... life sure is strange at the moment
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 23, 2020 18:38:34 GMT
Actually, in central Paris, there are lots of people in the cafés. It's out in the various outer neighbourhoods that there are not many customers. I am not helping the matter because I was never a big café customer (usually just an espresso at best) and I have not been to a café since March.
I missed a call from a friend yesterday who was cycling past my building on his way in from his office in Saint Denis. He wanted to have a beer at the café just across the street from my flat... maybe some other time.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 3, 2021 14:25:44 GMT
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Post by fumobici on Jun 3, 2021 14:42:54 GMT
Certainly nice and heartening to see a bit of normalcy return to the streets of Paris. Paris café culture is civilization itself.
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Post by htmb on Jun 3, 2021 15:02:16 GMT
Chexbres and I had a beverage at that last cafe after visiting the Bastille market.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 3, 2021 15:10:15 GMT
But it was not spread out like that in those days...
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Post by htmb on Jun 3, 2021 15:12:34 GMT
Oh, true! We sat inside the little glass area, crowded in with several other people.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 12, 2021 19:11:36 GMT
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