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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 23, 2015 12:54:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 13:13:25 GMT
Well, I only got half of the quiz answers right. It turns out that the situation is better than I feared. Meanwhile, France was beating its drum this week because domestic poverty declined for the first time since 2008. The poverty level here is determined to be income of no more than 1000 euros per month, a situation which concerns 14% of the population. This link showing the number of children living in poverty in the developed world is pretty scary. |
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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 23, 2015 13:34:24 GMT
I only got 1 right.
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Post by mossie on Sept 23, 2015 13:37:18 GMT
I got 5 out of 7, more by luck than judgement.
We moan about poverty in the UK but the average person has absolutely no idea what poverty is.
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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 23, 2015 13:42:20 GMT
Absolutely Mossie.
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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 23, 2015 13:46:34 GMT
Well, I only got half of the quiz answers right. It turns out that the situation is better than I feared. Meanwhile, France was beating its drum this week because domestic poverty declined for the first time since 2008. The poverty level here is determined to be income of no more than 1000 euros per month, a situation which concerns 14% of the population. This link showing the number of children living in poverty in the developed world is pretty scary. Those at the top didn't surprise me but the big one at the bottom was very surprising. |
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Post by amboseli on Sept 23, 2015 18:25:57 GMT
I got 1 right ... I'm a century behind.
Good to know!
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Post by mossie on Sept 23, 2015 18:42:45 GMT
I think the stats are misleading. Relative to say Jordan our poorest children would rank highly there. I am not well travelled but one only has to compare poorer countries with our own to realise how wide the gaps in relative poverty levels are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 18:46:12 GMT
The basic poor comparison rule is "the lowest 10%" of income in the country compared to the higher incomes. In many countries, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, which is what explains the ranking of the U.S. The rich are so fucking rich that even though most of the poor are not starving to death, they are penniless compared to the high incomes.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2015 18:47:56 GMT
Very interesting! I got two right by sheer luck. One of those was an intelligent guess. The rest were just guesses.
That graph is sobering. I knew the US has a great deal of poverty despite its reputation as a rich country, but somehow Spain surprised me.
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Post by whatagain on Sept 23, 2015 20:24:03 GMT
I love stats... especially in a hotel room in a remote town in Poland. So you're not obliged to read it all but I invite you to download the stats from UNDP. UNDP has a statistics comparing countries on 'inequality regarding several things - one of which being income. The Gini coefficient gives the level of inequality : 0% : everybody has the same income - no inequality - 1 (or 100%) : only one guys has it all, all the rest has nothing. Norway is the country with the best overal coeeficient : where the average of ALL coefficient gives the best value - the best country to live in.. HDI is 94% Humand development Index. 49 ranked country (last of the heavily developed countries is Argentian 81%. Philippinas is country 117 with a HDI of 66%. Nepal, first of the low developed countries is 145 with 54%. Niger is the last of the table : 187, HDI 34% - the country where nobody should live in. Norway has a Gini of 26% : people are relatively equal... US : 40% Belgium : 33% Qatar : 41% Chile, Panama : 52%, Columbia Paraguay about the same.. .Latin America... Seychelles : 66% (the island belong to several families ?) China : 42% South Africa, Namibia : 63% (who said the blacks had money ?) India : 34% - I'm surprised Some figures are appaling : Tchad has a maternal mortality of 1% : 1 woman out of 100 dies giving birth. US has a rate of 21 per 100 000 births, Belgium has 8, Greece 3 ! you die 7 times more giving birth in the US than in Greece - who would believe this ? Australia life expectancy is 85 years for the females, in the US it is 81 years, Belgium is 83 years and my wife will outlive me by 5 years... Russia has 74 for the women and only 62 for the men... I'm supposed to live 16 years older than a Russian (I drink no vodka). South Africa is 59 and 55 years old... pfff. The worst is Sierra Leone : 45 years average life expectancy !!! Ok now the last one : population in prison. Norway (remember, best place to live) : 72 people per 100 000 inhabitants in prison. Belgium : 108 US ? US, a guess ? US : 716 !!!! nearly 1% of the population is behind bars. (not like in Belgium, bars without beer). Nr 1 in the world. Iran has 218 Russia has 475 Well... where are the dictatorship and where do we find freedom ... (Seychelles is 709) etc etc - it makes interesting reading. hdr.undp.org/en/data |
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2015 20:53:34 GMT
... you die 7 times more giving birth in the US than in Greece - who would believe this ? I have no trouble believing it. Greece has national healthcare, whereas the United States is so terrified of "socialism" that they insist on paying bundles to insurance companies for care they may or may not get rather than relatively small amounts in taxes for guaranteed care. |
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Post by lagatta on Sept 23, 2015 21:02:23 GMT
I'm not surprised either.
I know "relative poverty" is not the same as "absolute poverty" but it often means food and housing insecurity, eating crappy food that is caloric but not nutritious, and makes it very difficult to plan for the future.
As well as social isolation and exclusion.
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Post by mickthecactus on Sept 25, 2015 10:04:51 GMT
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