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Post by patricklondon on Oct 13, 2016 6:52:52 GMT
It's on the BBC website, Lagatta, entitled "The Trumpettes". A bunch of horribly made-up, older women, one of whom had too much plastic surgery, in some tarty hotel praying and then explaining why they support Trump. Pathetic really. Have they forgotten that number from "Gypsy" (which in the circumstances makes it an even more unfortunate choice of name) - "If ya gotta bump it, bump it with a trumpet!" My blog | My photos | My video clips"too literate to be spam"
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Post by htmb on Oct 14, 2016 2:00:44 GMT
Excerpt:
Full speech:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 20:33:56 GMT
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Post by htmb on Oct 15, 2016 21:07:16 GMT
It might be pushed aside by news of Trump requesting pre-debate drug tests for the next debate because Hilary "had to have been on something" at the last one, or the previously unreported 1998 interview with Howard Stern, where Trump compared sex to going to battle in Vietnam and joked he should be getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 21:47:58 GMT
Oh yes, where do we start... I check the HuffPo website every hour like clockwork, looking for the next laugh.
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Post by htmb on Oct 15, 2016 21:51:26 GMT
I need to get away from here, to somewhere where I won't hear or read any news.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 21:55:26 GMT
I have never regretted my decision not to vote in American elections since I stopped paying taxes there. However, I am amazed by the number of emails I have received from the US embassy trying to get me to register and vote. The only American election in which I ever voted was 1972, and my presidential candidate fared poorly (McGovern), winning only one state. However, I felt vindicated when the winner was forced to resign a few years later. As for the congressional candidate of my district, he ran unopposed and won 100% of the vote, just like in North Korea.
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Post by chexbres on Oct 18, 2016 20:43:41 GMT
I just hope that Hillary can keep it together when faced with 90 more minutes of what will undoubtedly amount to the last, most foul gasp from the ninth circle of Hell.
Secretly, I hope she pounces, bares her teeth and rips his lungs out.
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Post by Kimby on Oct 20, 2016 20:28:26 GMT
I need to get away from here, to somewhere where I won't hear or read any news. You do realize that people in other countries are fascinated with our political "system" and hijinks, and you will be bombarded by questions your whole trip. Far from an escape from American politics, you may have to defend yourself! I was asked in Thailand "Please explain to me the Electoral College." Yes indeed. I'd love to be able to explain that one! And in Morocco, I was asked about George Bush, and the questioner responded, "George Bush, that's fucked thinking!" (Excuse my French.)
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Post by whatagain on Oct 20, 2016 20:33:46 GMT
J'excuse votre français, ma chère Kimby.
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Post by htmb on Oct 20, 2016 21:28:33 GMT
I've traveled enough internationally to have had these questions come up. I was actually thinking of someplace out in the wilderness with no one around but the trees and a few animals. There will be a language barrier where I'm heading next and I plan to defer all questions to my traveling companions for any substantive conversation. While I would not want Bill Clinton to be president now, and I think some of this behavior was inexcusable, I do believe he was a good president. We were certainly in pretty good shape economically and internationally during his terms in office.
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Post by whatagain on Oct 20, 2016 21:41:43 GMT
working in a country where DSK nearly got elected, I don't understand all the fuss about Bill and Monica. But our king himself has had an illegitimate daughter and it is rumoured that the queen herself had her last one with a singer (Adamo...). So whilst we (well, all my friends, and reluctantly myself) would never cheat on our wives (Thérèse, don't read !!!) we don't bother if Bill relieved some of the tension in a - err - sexually inapropriate way. our line of thought is : if it made him happy, why not, I'm not in his or his wife"s shoes.
So I much prefer Bill having an affair with Monica than Trump saying that he could have shagged his own daughter if she hadn't been his daughter. So am I guys, so am I.... Hope I didn't offend you.
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Post by htmb on Oct 20, 2016 21:51:00 GMT
With Bill, there was a lot more going on than just Monica, but I agree those issues should have been between him and his wife. Where he blew it was in lying under oath.
Trump is a vile, nasty, despicable creep, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 21:53:49 GMT
Sexual activity is not considered pertinent to politics in most of Europe. I can't even imagine how most Americans would react to the fact (if it happened in America) that the current president of France never married the mother of his four children, was dumped by her because he had a new girlfriend, dumped that girlfriend unceremoniously for an actress (while being president), and in the meantime promoted the mother of his children, with whom he was barely on speaking terms for several years, to head one of the most important government ministries. The Clintons are just amateurs in comparison.
As for lying under oath, I have never met a single person who did not lie about sex. Glass houses...
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 9, 2016 2:31:01 GMT
I need to get away from here, to somewhere where I won't hear or read any news. 8:29 pm CST -- I swore I wouldn't look at the news tonight but just succumbed. Even if the anus doesn't win, his numbers make me want to throw up. What the living hell.
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Post by lagatta on Nov 9, 2016 3:15:38 GMT
I deliberately went to bed early (I was very tired) but someone phoned me - seems to have been a wrong number. I'm not a great Hillary fan (was most enthusiastic about the Sanders campaign) but the thought of that orange thing winning is utterly terrifying... Well, Livia and I are going back to bed.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 9, 2016 3:31:13 GMT
May we get up to a better tomorrow. I am so sad and demoralized right now I can hardly stand it.
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Post by Kimby on Nov 9, 2016 3:35:24 GMT
Trump could win the Electoral College even if Clinton wins the national vote. What a screwy system.
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Post by chexbres on Nov 9, 2016 9:26:20 GMT
It's all over. kerouac and htmb might as well stay in Mexico, where they will be given great jobs building the wall. I don't understand how this happened - really, politics by Twitter???
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 9, 2016 13:32:01 GMT
In 1980 the American voters rejected Jimmie Carter, an almost saintly candidate, in favor of the venal conservative, Ronald Reagan.
That was horrible, but the shit that happened last night is evidence of a lynch mob taking over the country.
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Post by lagatta on Nov 9, 2016 13:59:26 GMT
Yes, after his presidency, Jimmy Carter has proven himself a great humantitarian, from habitat for humanity to support for women and children who are victims of sex trafficking.
I've been looking at La Jornada and it looks bad for Mexico too, and not just the insane "wall".
K2, here in Québec I don't think voters care about politicians' sex lives and certainly not whether they are legally married, but sexual assault is another matter; it is violence.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 9, 2016 14:10:27 GMT
LaGatta, I owe you thanks for reminding me to check La Jornada for a wider spectrum of news outside English-language publications. On the other hand, I had finally managed to stop crying after finding out the hideously unbelievable news at five this morning and now am sunk into depressed sniveling again.
I keep thinking that it will be announced that a terrible mistake was make and that an ignorant demagogue is not head of one of the most powerful nations on earth.
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Post by lagatta on Nov 9, 2016 16:28:05 GMT
It does seem unbelievable, given the number of say, Nobel Prize winners who are US citizens.
However, most of those would be unqualified because they weren't born in the US... Do other modern democracies have those rules? Bixa or Don C might know if that is the case in Mexico or other Latin American countries.
Even the mayor of Paris and the Prime Minister (not the President) of France were born in Spain...
Two recent contenders to be PM of Canada have dual French and Canadian citizenship, and others have been British or US citizens as well as Canadian. The first Canadian PM was born in Scotland, but of course Canada had limited sovereignty 150 years ago.
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Post by mossie on Nov 9, 2016 16:48:14 GMT
Well, well, well, who'd a thunk it. The Brexit effect has infected the good ole USA with a vengeance. The people at the bottom have at last revolted against being continually shat on from an ever increasing altitude. Now the fat is in the fire keep your heads down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 17:40:43 GMT
I saw somewhere that President Trump said that his forthcoming election would be "Brexit x 10" for effect. Perhaps he was right.
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Post by bjd on Nov 9, 2016 19:08:17 GMT
Well, well, well, who'd a thunk it. The Brexit effect has infected the good ole USA with a vengeance. The people at the bottom have at last revolted against being continually shat on from an ever increasing altitude. Now the fat is in the fire keep your heads down. Yeah sure, so the answer is to elect a blowhard who was born wealthy, was given money to start his first business, was on "reality TV" for 10 years, never did his military service (5 deferments), never had an elected political position and feels he has the right to insult women, minorities, foreigners and anyone who doesn't agree with him. That'll show 'em.
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Post by chexbres on Nov 9, 2016 19:48:13 GMT
As a sentient human being, I supported Clinton. But I think she probably sabotaged her message by expecting too many voters to understand her excellent vocabulary, well-defined concepts and by not "dumbing down" her message, like Trump did.
As much as I hate to say it, I wish she had hired some "mean girls" who understand why Twitter works the way it does, and why it won the election for Trump. I think Clinton's staff was a couple of steps behind the times, and were aiming for the high road, and that's why they lost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 20:07:28 GMT
Well, well, well, who'd a thunk it. The Brexit effect has infected the good ole USA with a vengeance. The people at the bottom have at last revolted against being continually shat on from an ever increasing altitude. Now the fat is in the fire keep your heads down. Yeah sure, so the answer is to elect a blowhard who was born wealthy, was given money to start his first business, was on "reality TV" for 10 years, never did his military service (5 deferments), never had an elected political position and feels he has the right to insult women, minorities, foreigners and anyone who doesn't agree with him. That'll show 'em. 👿 Yup.
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Post by lagatta on Nov 9, 2016 23:24:30 GMT
Not only that, not paying his taxes. Yes, it was "tax avoidance" (with an army of accountants and tax lawyere) not "tax evasion" which is outright theft, but you and I would get at the least a very stiff fine and at most a jail term if we tried that crap.
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Post by patricklondon on Nov 10, 2016 8:10:55 GMT
Two recent contenders to be PM of Canada have dual French and Canadian citizenship, and others have been British or US citizens as well as Canadian. And the UK has had a Canadian PM (Andrew Bonar Law): in those days, it was all still considered one Empire and Commonwealth, but since we still allow resident citizens of other Commonwealth countries to vote and stand for Parliament, it's not impossible there could be another (not so long ago, a native New Zealander was in contention for leadership of the Labour Party). My blog | My photos | My video clips"too literate to be spam"
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