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Oct 22, 2021 20:50:25 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 22, 2021 20:50:25 GMT
Not in the UK I’m afraid. Possibly in specialist grocers like Fortnum and Mason in Piccadilly but not your average high street supermarket.
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Oct 23, 2021 5:05:50 GMT
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Post by patricklondon on Oct 23, 2021 5:05:50 GMT
Not in the UK I’m afraid. Possibly in specialist grocers like Fortnum and Mason in Piccadilly but not your average high street supermarket. I'm still seeing imported asparagus in my local Waitrose. They've always had quite a lot of unseasonable veg from South America and various parts of Africa. Can't say I've been noticing any great shortages or empty shelves. Other chains that work to tighter margins may be finding it difficult to stick to them, perhaps.
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Oct 23, 2021 6:35:37 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Oct 23, 2021 6:35:37 GMT
I find it utterly stupid to import asparagus from SA or Peru. I try to follow the seasons, and avoud now imported vegetables andd fruits. My personal contribution to ecology.
And yes, it is fake news. Like shortage of gas.
And if it were partly true, skilled and efficient people lime Bojo would fix it in no time.
Seems there is no shortage of Covid cases, for example. All is well.
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Oct 23, 2021 17:20:25 GMT
Post by bixaorellana on Oct 23, 2021 17:20:25 GMT
My UK produce story is from before Brexit, but ~
I was in a small grocery store in London and saw peas in a plastic clamshell. I picked it up and emoted over it ~ English peas! Oooo, tiny, very green, perfect shelled peas, a veritable icon of the British culinary landscape. Upon turning the clamshell over I read, "Product of Guatemala".
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Oct 23, 2021 17:46:52 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 23, 2021 17:46:52 GMT
The fresh peas in France are also from Guatemala most of the time;.
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Oct 23, 2021 18:26:55 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 23, 2021 18:26:55 GMT
Didn’t see fresh peas this year. People can’t be bothered to shell them. Or don’t know how.
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Oct 24, 2021 10:32:45 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Oct 24, 2021 10:32:45 GMT
Apparently the City is dying. I just read that the stock exchange share of new introductions has been divided by 4, the value of the british SE has been reduced by 40pc and the companies staying are mostly 19 or 20th cenrury related. New technological companies get introduced elsewhere.
It was feared, as SE is very volatile. It is now a fact. Rip.
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Oct 24, 2021 10:54:14 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 24, 2021 10:54:14 GMT
That is the sort of thing that I didn't use to care about at all. "The stock market? That doesn't concern ordinary people -- big deal!" As I have aged and the economy has become a behemoth, I realise how naive I was. In recent years, we have seen so many huge companies collapse, generally for reasons of greed and inter-corporate battles, and yes they did affect us as so many chain stores owned by them closed and disappeared forever. We have less and less choice on how to spend our money and no matter how hard we wish, it is not the small independent places that can save us.
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Oct 25, 2021 16:36:25 GMT
Post by tod2 on Oct 25, 2021 16:36:25 GMT
Oh my goodness. These vegetable imports. For years now South Africa has been too lazy or SHORTSIGHTED to lay the ground for farms that know the growing and harvesting of excellent fresh vegetables. Instead, our clued-up neighbors like Kenya have been hard at it and exporting their "Dinner Party " quality veg to us. For the hostess with the most-tess, these vegetables are just what she wants to serve at her elegant soiree! I find it more exciting to harvest my own home grown vegetables but not many people have the wonderful amount of land I have OR if they do, they have blimming goats and chickens that destroy every leaf!
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Oct 25, 2021 18:19:07 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 25, 2021 18:19:07 GMT
It was the same when I went to Barbados. They import their lettuce from the States and for some reason there was a shortage. Somebody wrote in their paper how ridiculous the situation was when they have the land and the weather to produce their own but they just can’t be arsed.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:05:44 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 27, 2021 21:05:44 GMT
The current dispute between France and Jersey for fishing rights is probably of little importance to most of us, even the British or French. I really don't know what percentage of seafood is extracted from this zone and whether it is the British or the French who eat it. (However, I think that it is maybe the French and that the issue is scallops, which the French love. I'm not sure.) Anyway, from the French point of view, Jersey has not been honest in its issuance of fishing licences to EU fishing boats. Once again, I don't know if this is true or not.
France is threatening at the beginning of November to 1) ban British vessels from French ports. That would be pretty catastrophic since most exported British fish is sold to France. 2) France is threatening to reduce (but not totally cut off) electricty to Jersey, which receives all of its electricity from France. This is unlikely because we are not monsters, but the fact that it is possible is a bit alarming.
I just find it interesting to discover details like this that nobody ever expected from Brexit.
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Oct 28, 2021 6:48:44 GMT
Post by bjd on Oct 28, 2021 6:48:44 GMT
Amusing to hear Johnson complaining about France not following international law while he backtracks on agreements he signed himself over Northern Ireland.
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Oct 28, 2021 12:18:27 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Oct 28, 2021 12:18:27 GMT
La perfide Albion is an expression making quite a bit of a comeback recently.
Basically Bojo is as low in our esteem as Trump was.
And yes, since they were both democratically elected, there is some fall-out of this low consideration on the global population.
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Oct 28, 2021 14:47:04 GMT
Post by tod2 on Oct 28, 2021 14:47:04 GMT
The two men may be alike in their running of things, but I will give Boris Johnson an A plus for being able to converse properly in not only the English language, but the "Queens" English....you can't do better than that.
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Oct 28, 2021 15:25:05 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 28, 2021 15:25:05 GMT
And of course he speaks French. I seem to recall that he spent his holidays on the Côte d'Azur until our political world made that impossible.
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Oct 28, 2021 15:46:12 GMT
Post by bjd on Oct 28, 2021 15:46:12 GMT
Oh, I'm sure he would find a way around any political issues to spend time abroad. Besides, he has the right to 90 days, doesn't he?
Tod, of course Bojo speaks "properly". He went to fancy schools and comes from a wealthy family. Unfortunately, what he says is often stupid, no matter how he says it.
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Oct 28, 2021 16:00:21 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 28, 2021 16:00:21 GMT
I’m sure France are completely beyond reproach.
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Oct 28, 2021 16:31:05 GMT
Post by bjd on Oct 28, 2021 16:31:05 GMT
I just listened to a news item about this fishing business. For Bojo, it's a way to distract the public from other problems like shortages and that Brexit is not working as wonderfully as he had claimed it would. For France, there is an election in 6 months, so for the government to look like it's defending the fishermen, whose lobby is influential and powerful despite their low numbers, is a political calculation.
A professor at York who specializes in trade, agriculture and fisheries, said these problems should be discussed quietly and not by newspapers and in public. He thinks it can all be settled.
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Oct 28, 2021 16:35:13 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 28, 2021 16:35:13 GMT
And not by cutting off electrical supplies to the Channel Islands as suggested.
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Oct 28, 2021 17:21:15 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 28, 2021 17:21:15 GMT
Maybe the UK should start laying some cables to the Channel Islands. Oh, that's right -- the electric companies in southern England are owned by France.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:12:46 GMT
Post by lugg on Oct 28, 2021 18:12:46 GMT
I eat and buy asparagus all year as it is one of my favourite veg but yes it is imported out of season. I am seeing some shortages such as ; some types of sparkling water, oddly its the supermarket own brand I cant get ; some types of prosecco; various salad ingredients such as cucumber at times ...but the shortages are short lived in the main.
What is really hitting us hard in Herefordshire is the lack of foreign workers to staff bars and restaurants and to pick crops/ work on farms. A number of pubs/restaurants are reducing their opening hours or are stopping serving food. One of my son's friends has just had to close his community pub completely as he cannot staff it.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:31:30 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 28, 2021 18:31:30 GMT
Maybe the UK should start laying some cables to the Channel Islands. Oh, that's right -- the electric companies in southern England are owned by France. Yes,yes. Threatening to cut off electricity to resolve a dispute is eminently sensible. But you seem to skip over that.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:34:26 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 28, 2021 18:34:26 GMT
Did I ever say that I supported the idea?
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Oct 28, 2021 18:48:13 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 28, 2021 18:48:13 GMT
Did you ever say you rejected it?
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Oct 28, 2021 18:48:53 GMT
Post by bjd on Oct 28, 2021 18:48:53 GMT
Of course it's a stupid idea but it's the kind of nonsense that gets ratcheted up when each side is playing to its own audience and lobbies, instead of having sensible, private talks.
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Oct 29, 2021 5:44:10 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Oct 29, 2021 5:44:10 GMT
Of course it is a political gesture to threaten to kill electricity. Vut when nothing else works and tbe situation hasn't moved once inch in month it is a good threat. Like when the guy who doesn't pay the rent for minths, he gets a paper telling him he will be evicted. I see/do/suffer from it regularly in my job. Just did it yesterday : if you don't solve my issue in France, i will blacklist you and stop projects in Poland...
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Oct 29, 2021 8:39:14 GMT
Post by tod2 on Oct 29, 2021 8:39:14 GMT
Tod, of course Bojo speaks "properly". He went to fancy schools and comes from a wealthy family. Maybe it is to do with being well educated and mixing with other people who have a 'posh' way of speaking. Boris attended Eaton. My son was lucky enough to attended the equivalent private school here. My son speaks with a normal English South African accent like us - not a sign of a hot potato because no other boys did. I saw an example of a change in accents when my son had a friend from a family that spoke with Indian jargon and accent. They went through school together from primary to finishing high school. This friend spoke English just like the other boys, UNTIL he left school. When meeting up again after some years my son told us his friend had gone back to speaking in an Indian accent. I guess Boris could easily take on a Cockney accent if he spent a lot of time with Cockney speaking people...
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Oct 31, 2021 18:25:46 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 31, 2021 18:25:46 GMT
Of course it is a political gesture to threaten to kill electricity. Vut when nothing else works and tbe situation hasn't moved once inch in month it is a good threat. Like when the guy who doesn't pay the rent for minths, he gets a paper telling him he will be evicted. I see/do/suffer from it regularly in my job. Just did it yesterday : if you don't solve my issue in France, i will blacklist you and stop projects in Poland... It’s a totally stupid threat that has nothing to do with the situation.
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Oct 31, 2021 18:28:25 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 31, 2021 18:28:25 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong but the Brit trawlers that offload in France are selling to the EU market?
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Oct 31, 2021 18:41:11 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 31, 2021 18:41:11 GMT
That is correct.
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