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Jan 24, 2023 19:27:52 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jan 24, 2023 19:27:52 GMT
Correlation vs. Causation. Leaving the EU occurred and "A cut in the number of border officials means it takes nearly 30% longer to process passengers...." That is a correlation, not a causation. "The idea that "correlation implies causation" is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy, in which two events occurring together are taken to have established a cause-and-effect relationship."
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Brexit
Jan 24, 2023 19:34:41 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jan 24, 2023 19:34:41 GMT
Yes, we know that the real reason that there are not enough border officials is due to the collapse of the British economy. Why do they need to stamp the passports? That is so 20th century. Don't they have computers?
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Brexit
Jan 24, 2023 20:10:00 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jan 24, 2023 20:10:00 GMT
Ahh... you've opened my eyes there. I never realised the UK was the only one who stamps passports.
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Brexit
Jan 24, 2023 20:16:18 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jan 24, 2023 20:16:18 GMT
In Europe, probably. Maybe you think it is on the level of Egypt or Zambia.
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Brexit
Jan 24, 2023 21:04:39 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jan 24, 2023 21:04:39 GMT
Awww...! How cute my little croque monsieur. I've missed your periodic digs at Brexit and the UK in general. I wondered if you were feeling a bit under the weather. Nice to see you're back in force. Keep it up! Always amusing!
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Brexit
Jan 24, 2023 21:15:32 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jan 24, 2023 21:15:32 GMT
All European countries stamp passports. On entry and exit if you are entering/leaving the Schengen/EU zone for third country passport holders. None stamping of passports in the EU amongst EU citizens is an exception, not the rule worldwide - as you well know. Shame you have to try and imply it is a UK thing only.
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Brexit
Jan 24, 2023 21:18:41 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jan 24, 2023 21:18:41 GMT
I have used my US passport sometimes, and at least half of the time it was never stamped.
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Brexit
May 1, 2023 10:58:36 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on May 1, 2023 10:58:36 GMT
I'm sorry but this made me laugh.
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May 1, 2023 11:33:23 GMT
Post by cheerypeabrain on May 1, 2023 11:33:23 GMT
It's the politicians too.
Initially (when we joined) I wasn't keen on The Common Market, but we did benefit hugely from belonging. Workers' rights, trade, educational exchanges, joint research and development projects and citizens rights etc. There were always niggles but we generally got our own way. I don't really understand the passionate desire to stand apart from the rest of Europe but it's too late now.
The 'leave' voters got their way and now we all have to try to make the best of things. Farage, Rees-Mogg and Johnson have a lot to answer for. Some of my smug 'leave' acquaintances are moaning about the fact that they're having trouble leaving the country for their holidays IN EUROPE! Long delays at borders etc...They don't want to holiday here because it's too expensive, the weather is sh*t and the rivers and beaches are filthy...*sigh*
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Brexit
May 1, 2023 13:06:23 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on May 1, 2023 13:06:23 GMT
Apparently a huge number of UK passports are no longer valid for travel to the Schengen zone because people did not pay attention to the validity requirements.
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Brexit
May 1, 2023 14:19:37 GMT
Post by fumobici on May 1, 2023 14:19:37 GMT
Farage, Rees-Mogg and Johnson have a lot to answer for. What I can't even remotely understand is how supporting complete scum like Farage, Rees-Moog, and Johnson ever seemed like a good idea. People actually lapped up their disgusting vomit and declared it delicious. I have the same problem with Americans who support Trump. You almost need to be profoundly mentally disabled to qualify.
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May 1, 2023 14:53:17 GMT
Post by onlyMark on May 1, 2023 14:53:17 GMT
Apparently a huge number of UK passports are no longer valid for travel to the Schengen zone because people did not pay attention to the validity requirements. How many is "huge" and what has changed? Please clarify.
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Brexit
May 1, 2023 15:02:06 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on May 1, 2023 15:02:06 GMT
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Brexit
May 1, 2023 15:08:46 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on May 1, 2023 15:08:46 GMT
Farage, Rees-Mogg and Johnson have a lot to answer for. What I can't even remotely understand is how supporting complete scum like Farage, Rees-Moog, and Johnson ever seemed like a good idea. People actually lapped up their disgusting vomit and declared it delicious. I have the same problem with Americans who support Trump. You almost need to be profoundly mentally disabled to qualify. For crying out loud Fumo, get off the fence.
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Brexit
May 1, 2023 16:19:06 GMT
Post by onlyMark on May 1, 2023 16:19:06 GMT
There's the thing about the three month after leaving Schengen validity and the extended passport validity things. I think it is right that there are UK passport holders who have extended validity and/or want to enter Schengen within the last three months of that validity but I did wonder about the "huge" word and I suspect those numbers are coming down as time goes on anyway. But, I bet few understand, for example, Spain in theory requires proof of funds and accommodation also. Interesting to see what happens when ETIAS comes into force.
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May 2, 2023 14:12:53 GMT
Post by whatagain on May 2, 2023 14:12:53 GMT
My English friends had no problem traveling into France. If people are stupid enough to BOTH vote for Brexit AND complain that it complexifies entering EU, well then i don't give a f...
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Brexit
May 2, 2023 15:08:16 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on May 2, 2023 15:08:16 GMT
It’s now virtually impossible to import any cacti from the single market without paying a fortune for a health certificate even though they moved freely before Brexit.
Seeds can still be imported freely but that may not last.
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Brexit
May 2, 2023 15:44:08 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on May 2, 2023 15:44:08 GMT
Wouldn't that be a case of the UK being afraid of contaminated EU cacti entering the country? It seems to me that the UK was not obliged to make this rule if they thought that EU cacti were all right before Brexit.
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Brexit
May 2, 2023 15:50:09 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on May 2, 2023 15:50:09 GMT
Agree 100%.
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May 2, 2023 17:10:43 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on May 2, 2023 17:10:43 GMT
I suppose then that it is more a case of the UK protecting the local gardening industry (since I suppose the rule applies to all plants and not just cacti).
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May 2, 2023 17:35:16 GMT
Post by cheerypeabrain on May 2, 2023 17:35:16 GMT
Many of the plants sold at the big garden centres here are still sourced in Holland, there are British suppliers still but most don't produce the quantities of plants that these massive garden centres require.
Predictably, the prices have rocketed.
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Jul 23, 2023 12:55:43 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 23, 2023 12:55:43 GMT
Note that this is not a report by an EU country but by a Swiss news media.
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Brexit
Jul 25, 2023 21:33:22 GMT
Post by bixaorellana on Jul 25, 2023 21:33:22 GMT
That really is heartbreaking. It's also ironic that the "biggest Brexiter" is not a native-born British person and the same for the man working hard to run his business and keep main street alive.
2016 will go down in history as the year both the UK and its former colony, the US, decided to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Brexit
Jul 26, 2023 17:50:45 GMT
via mobile
Post by whatagain on Jul 26, 2023 17:50:45 GMT
They seem both happy.
UK is rid of EU and US well give them 4 more years of Trump and they are rid of everybody.
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Jul 26, 2023 18:08:23 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 26, 2023 18:08:23 GMT
Perhaps the UK could import immigrant workers which the US wants to deport.
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Brexit
Sept 11, 2023 16:26:31 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Sept 11, 2023 16:26:31 GMT
They just never dare say that the current generation of UK politicans needs to retire or die off for any hope of change.
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Oct 1, 2023 17:39:03 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Oct 1, 2023 17:39:03 GMT
Propaganda is always interesting, even when it is over the top.
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Oct 1, 2023 18:13:22 GMT
Post by bixaorellana on Oct 1, 2023 18:13:22 GMT
It is extremely interesting, although I think it would be more compelling if it were pared down to the more immediate benefits and and the pie-in-the-sky stuff taken out. Practically promising a villa in the south of France smacks of the old Publishers Clearing House ads. Also, if you watch it on youtube, you'll see that it has no information on a petition for a new referendum, for instance, nor much more of substance. This is what it does have:
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Nov 19, 2023 19:18:59 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Nov 19, 2023 19:18:59 GMT
This is interesting.
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Dec 29, 2023 17:08:44 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Dec 29, 2023 17:08:44 GMT
One thing that happened with Brexit is that all of the school groups from the continent disappeared. Not only did all children require passports (not at all free of course), but non-EU citizen children or chaperones required visas. So school trips dropped to almost nothing. This was excellent for the Republic of Ireland which benefited from a huge number of linguistic trips. Well, the UK is finally coming to its senses so in 2024, French school children will no longer require passports for these trips. If they don't sneak away to live illegally in the UK, the test will be extended to other EU countries. UKinbound welcomes rule change for French school groups
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