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Jun 26, 2016 13:08:58 GMT
Post by questa on Jun 26, 2016 13:08:58 GMT
Or Bali!
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 14:29:33 GMT
Post by whatagain on Jun 26, 2016 14:29:33 GMT
Thinking that some people from 'somewhere' else behave less well than us at home (and us at home can be anywhere too) saddens me. But let's go that way : Italians are loud and untidy, French are always complaining, Belgians get drunk with beer and eat fries, Turks smoke, Poles drink, UK citizens can't behave once out of their county, Germans are loud and drunkards. Sorry I'm not that much into stereotypes for Asians... so let us finish with US citizens : they are stupid and have no manners and are acultural. So - all of these guys would be considered as badly behaving once outisde their own coutnry and would consider anybody coming to their country to behave badly. Can you imagine that I've seen US guys eating with one hand under the table and drinking coke with their canard à l'orange - shocking - worse than bad behaviour !
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 15:12:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 15:12:37 GMT
Moving on... Nicola Sturgeon definitely has balls!
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 15:13:16 GMT
Post by mossie on Jun 26, 2016 15:13:16 GMT
Sorry we got sidetracked.
This explains why, you can skip the advert after a few seconds
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 15:56:06 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 26, 2016 15:56:06 GMT
Hilarious.
And I suspect Ms Sturgeon has ovaries, not balls. Or balls, one could say, but well-hidden ones.
Is there a rule that the First Ministers of Scotland must be named for fish?
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 16:17:44 GMT
Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 26, 2016 16:17:44 GMT
Rikita is spot on for that one. Even in England it seems to me that groups of local pure Brits are extremely well known for drinking and singing in the streets, which would be fine since it is their own country if there wasn't also all of the puking and pissing on top of it. And let's not even talk about what they do in Greece and Spain. Ain't that the truth...it's SO EMBARRASSING. I can't believe the amount they drink now..I thought that I was doing well if I had 2 pints of lager OR (and I stress 'OR' not 'AND')a few pub sized measures of whisky (with American ginger). Now many folk drink a bottle of something vile before they leave the house and then drink until they can't stand up or until they puke...in fact it doesn't seem to count as 'a good night out' unless somebody wakes up with a stranger, needs their stomach pumped or lands up in a police cell. I sound old don't I? well I am old. I'll get my coat...
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 17:04:49 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jun 26, 2016 17:04:49 GMT
Now many folk drink a bottle of something vile before they leave the house and then drink until they can't stand up or until they puke...in fact it doesn't seem to count as 'a good night out' unless somebody wakes up with a stranger, needs their stomach pumped or lands up in a police cell. Ahh.... the good old days. You make it sound like a bad thing.
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 17:59:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 17:59:26 GMT
"Labour's Game of Thrones"
I found that headline so appropriate on the website of The Independent. But I suppose I find it amusing only because I am not British.
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 20:09:00 GMT
Post by mossie on Jun 26, 2016 20:09:00 GMT
Both our main parties are in turmoil over this, the Tories are split completely and Labour is pitiful. I can forsee both breaking up and hopefully a sensible coalition of moderates will emerge, with less influence from the Westminster bubble, which has totally ignored the common herd.
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 21:52:04 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jun 26, 2016 21:52:04 GMT
I see the petition is coming under scrutiny for fraud because somehow over 40,000 people have voted from Vatican City. Which has a population of 800.
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Brexit
Jun 26, 2016 23:43:55 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 26, 2016 23:43:55 GMT
The Tories are even more divided than Labour, with prominent Tories - the PM and the Mayor of London - at the head of the contending sides. I agree about the disconnect from the common person, but disagree about 2 choices of "moderates", that is, no choice, as is usually the case in the US. In spite of the distortions of "first past the post", there are somewhat more choices in Canada.
Cheery, I had British friends when I was studying in Italy, and they were deeply shamed by that type of Brit, as Frenchpersons would be by the Arrogant Parisian or Americans by the clueless, uncouth American.
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Brexit
Jun 27, 2016 2:31:11 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 2:31:11 GMT
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Jun 27, 2016 2:33:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 2:33:20 GMT
The Tories are even more divided than Labour, with prominent Tories - the PM and the Mayor of London - at the head of the contending sides. I believe that's the former mayor of London.
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Brexit
Jun 27, 2016 3:28:09 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 27, 2016 3:28:09 GMT
Well, of course and yes we khan.
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Jun 27, 2016 4:09:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 4:09:36 GMT
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Jun 27, 2016 12:25:22 GMT
Post by mickthecactus on Jun 27, 2016 12:25:22 GMT
Set up by Kent fishermen last week. This was in Ramsgate and my grandfather, great grandfather and other family members of that time were all fishermen there. Now there is not a single wet fish boat operating out of Ramsgate.
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Jun 27, 2016 16:46:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 16:46:42 GMT
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Brexit
Jun 27, 2016 17:18:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 17:18:42 GMT
This is so cruel. Staged or not, who cares? Pure comedy gold.
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Brexit
Jun 27, 2016 17:38:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 17:38:10 GMT
From Twitter:
If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legislation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-manoeuvred and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:59:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 19:59:57 GMT
I suspect Ms Sturgeon has ovaries, not balls. Or balls, one could say, but well-hidden ones. Actually, if I had adapted the new French expression for women with balls, I would have written "Nicola Sturgeon has clit." ( 'Elle a du clito.') It was popularised by director Houda Benyamina at the last Cannes film festival after being used in her Caméra d'Or winning " Divines." Women admiring men showing strong support for feminist issues also say they have clit.
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Brexit
Jun 27, 2016 22:31:03 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 27, 2016 22:31:03 GMT
Oh, that is cool, though the clit as an organ of pleasure more resembles the most sensitive parts of the penis. My we are getting racy, eh?
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Jun 27, 2016 23:45:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 23:45:48 GMT
I think the point is sexual potency, i.e., seed vs. egg. Unfortunately, that little bit of flesh doesn't have much of a function beyond pleasure, which sends the wrong message entirely.
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Jun 28, 2016 0:57:24 GMT
Post by questa on Jun 28, 2016 0:57:24 GMT
The job of the balls is to make and store testosterone. Feisty women have high levels of that hormone, so balls seems the right word to use. I prefer feisty as it describes the woman's attitude without having to define it by maleness.
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Jun 28, 2016 1:34:57 GMT
Post by questa on Jun 28, 2016 1:34:57 GMT
Back to Kerouac's post #138. That is a good summary of the situation regarding the political aspect. However what is happening on the streets? TV here is showing the ugly side of 'being British' with attacks, both verbal and physical on anyone who looks or dresses differently to the imagined white British norm. As it sinks in to their tiny minds that their Leave votes (if they voted at all) look like being thwarted, I fear that these thugs may turn in frustration to violence en masse and lives, homes and livelihoods will be lost.
I remember "The Long Hot Summer of 1967" in USA
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Brexit
Jun 28, 2016 7:14:55 GMT
Post by mickthecactus on Jun 28, 2016 7:14:55 GMT
Very interesting. I got this from the guy running the Ramsgate Maritime Museum who said there were just 5 boats fishing for whelks now.
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Brexit
Jun 28, 2016 7:20:20 GMT
Post by onlyMark on Jun 28, 2016 7:20:20 GMT
What's a clitoris?
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Jun 28, 2016 8:13:17 GMT
Post by questa on Jun 28, 2016 8:13:17 GMT
It is a little boat with a man in it...maybe he's fishing for whelks... not much else around.
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Brexit
Jun 28, 2016 11:00:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 11:00:07 GMT
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Brexit
Jun 28, 2016 15:00:26 GMT
Post by mossie on Jun 28, 2016 15:00:26 GMT
Thanks Rita, at least someone is on our side.
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Brexit
Jun 28, 2016 15:57:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 15:57:17 GMT
I'm sorry, but it's kind of hard not to gloat when a country has done something so foolish that both the majority and the opposition self destruct within 48 hours. Particularly amusing is that just about the only way out without cancelling the referendum now seems to be the "Norwegian solution" where the country is not a member but contributes just as much money as members without having any say at all in the decisions of the EU.
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