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Post by rikita on Jun 30, 2016 21:57:02 GMT
Is there a thread about them yet? Couldn't find it ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 0:49:38 GMT
I think you just started one...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 5:22:11 GMT
I was quite surprised that the airport reopened after just six hours. However, I did read that it was vital to the country since all of the Turkish Airlines planes are based there, and if they didn't get moving again, nothing could land there either.
The Eiffel Tower was illuminated in the colours of the Turkish flag last night.
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Post by rikita on Jul 1, 2016 8:00:26 GMT
yes from what i read the airport is very important to their economy, and i suppose they also want to show that they are continuing ...
the brandenburg gate was illuminated with the turkish flag too ...
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Post by htmb on Jul 1, 2016 8:09:16 GMT
It is unfortunate - horrible - that we seem to have continuous opportunities to illuminate landmarks in honor of the poor, unfortunate victims. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we had a more peaceful world.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 1, 2016 19:07:34 GMT
The attacks took place outside the airport, at the first check. If it is like the other airport, Sabiha Gokcne, you have a line of about 10 m inside the airport then go through metal detectors. Then you enter the departure hall.
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Post by rikita on Jul 2, 2016 22:29:04 GMT
wondering if landmarks are also lit up with the colours of the bangladesh flag ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 4:15:07 GMT
Green and red; it will look like Christmas.  |
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Post by rikita on Jul 4, 2016 12:23:43 GMT
and in the colours of the iraqi flag ...
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 15, 2016 21:06:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 22:52:15 GMT
It appears that the army has taken control.
Of course, I am going to bed now and everything might have changed again by the time I wake up.
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Post by rikita on Jul 15, 2016 23:00:19 GMT
the things i read said that a part of the army tried to take control but it wasn't clear how succesful they were, but i am also too tired to read more. i must admit, while i was planning to keep watching the news on my phone on vacation, i am currently wondering if i shouldn't try to ignore all news for two weeks, it is making me feel even more overwhelmed. but maybe that's just because i am tired, but it seems it is so much right now ...
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Post by questa on Jul 16, 2016 0:02:21 GMT
Going back to htmb's post #4...
I wonder if the illuminations world-wide, the flags, the masses of flower and candle shrines, the VIPs all coming to the sites to make speeches, the memorials and marches and then the remembrance days after the event don't all feed straight into the plans of the killers.
Although it is a natural response, maybe it is the glorification that the evil-doers are craving and which encourages more attacks.
What would happen if everyone chose to just carry on. For the country's leader to simply say "An attack has been noted, please continue your daily activities while all help shall be given to those affected. No flowers or fuss...show your respect and courage by just going about your daily routines as normal."
The media would be able to report the event with no pictures or dramatic interviews, just the bare facts.
I know this is impossible, but maybe it would take the 'terror' out of 'terrorists'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 4:31:59 GMT
It appears that the coup has failed, but the rebellion is still smouldering in various cities.
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Post by gabriele on Jul 16, 2016 5:19:33 GMT
The two main bridges in Istanbul had been illuminated with the French tricolor in sympathy with Nice....and so things turn, turn again.
The US news coverage is about "legally elected President..." either having forgotten or never paid attention to the history of the man, that when he didn't win the first election, he called almost immediately for a second....and since it's big news and Turkey is supposed to be our close ally....of course the reporters pronouncing such things seem to have also forgotten how the news is censored in Turkey and how many reports have been thrown in jail.
Of course my understanding is based on what I've read in the Guardian and I've come to not trust it as much as I used to...
I think ultimately we will learn more of the real news from blog posts and youtube videos who are not attached to the 'official line'.
On Thorn Tree a regular who lives in Turkey had no news, just posted: "Pray for Turkey".
That makes it sound religious which many people don't do but I tend to think of it as making a statement in the subjunctive...."that ____ might____". A wish, a prayer, a whatever. Just wanting it to be better.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 16, 2016 6:55:41 GMT
Thanks for that, Gabriele. You perfectly articulated my frustration on finding real news. It's a helluva a note when one finds oneself thinking a military coup is a good thing.  "Pray for Turkey" is another expression of semi-hopeless frustration, isn't it? Rikita, your comment about being overwhelmed made me admit to myself how numb I feel about recent events. I register the horror intellectually, but it almost doesn't reach me anymore. The coup appears to have failed. I shudder to think what will happen next. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 11:06:38 GMT
161 civilians killed, 104 rebel soldiers killed, more than 1440 people wounded.
2,839 rebels have been arrested, 5 generals and 29 colonels relieved of their functions.
Those figures are all sure to change.
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Post by bjd on Jul 16, 2016 14:57:01 GMT
The reporter on France 24 lives in Ankara and he said his wife is a doctor working in a hospital there. She said many of the wounded being treated had been shot with birdshot, i.e. shotguns, not something the military or police use, so he figured that Erdogan's supporters had been out fighting.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 16, 2016 21:53:34 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2016 5:05:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 16:24:46 GMT
We are just two days away from the 2nd anniversary of the Charlie Hebdo killings in France, and there will be plenty of media coverage. In the meantime, here is the price that Turkey has paid in deaths due to terrorism over the past two years. s19.postimg.cc/dj0aokmz7/turquie.png |
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 21, 2017 15:52:46 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 11, 2017 1:10:44 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 18, 2017 16:07:48 GMT
The title of this thread should probably be changed to reflect posting about the ever more worrisome events in Turkey. For now, I'll just add the depressing news that the US's low-life power-hungry demagogue rushed to congratulate Erdogan on his power-grabbing referendum success, even as the EU is calling for an investigation into that referendum's results. www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/us/politics/trump-erdogan-turkey-referendum.html?_r=0 |
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