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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 16:52:43 GMT
That's the same reason I enjoy seeing the photos that other people take of Paris.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 17:18:04 GMT
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Post by mossie on Nov 19, 2016 18:59:21 GMT
I note that eating seems to be a Mexican passion, the dame admiring the avocado stall is a wonderful example.
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Post by onlyMark on Nov 19, 2016 19:30:31 GMT
Bixa, jumping back a little, at reply number 32, first photo. Are you going to tell me that is the Mexican version of churros? In all the photos of food stuffs on the street, little of it seems covered. Is there not a fly problem? In the town you mention a tourist office. I presume they have a street map of the town and if so, is their a walking tour marked to hit the highlights? I ask as I see their are various markers on the streets with information. Or do you have to bumble around yourself?
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 19, 2016 23:40:06 GMT
onlyMark, re: churros ~ yes and no. I took the picture because I'd never seen them sold in a coil like that. Here they are sold in bags as you see atop the coil. When I was a kid in Madrid, churros in the fat stick form were known as "puros" (cigars). Churros were an abbreviated skinny pretzel shape which I've never seen in Mexico. You would have been an asset on this trip as another taster to evaluate all the unfamiliar food would have been great. Re: flies ~ actually, they're not that bad. Most vendors use whisks and I try not to think about what else they might be using, since there aren't all that many flies. What always does bother me are foodstuffs in plates or baskets on the ground, such as in the last picture in #32. That's just plain contraindicated by common sense! Yes, there are tourist maps available, but we mostly just followed our noses, asking directions when necessary. Kerouac, I continue to appreciate your narrative, especially as you're including fun things I left out. Continuing on the stroll to the market. There is so much so see along the way ~ We reach the outer edges of the market and the street is filled with -- be still my heart! -- fresh fish and seafood stands. Not only that, there are many varieties I recognize, plus far, far more kinds than I see in Oaxaca. I asked one of the vendors and he proudly said that Puebla gets seafood from both the Gulf and the Pacific. These Poblanos know how to live. We lunched at a restaurant conveniently placed right behind all the fresh fish stands.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 0:02:27 GMT
And now we're inside the market, where there is no way to tell oneself polite fictions about where food comes from ~
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Post by questa on Nov 20, 2016 0:08:40 GMT
I'm going to Hell for this...W-a-a-y back we saw a pic of what patrick named "Jesus on the lav"...has he got a cell phone to his right ear? The temptation to slip an old phone into the palm of the hand....!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 0:14:46 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 0:15:47 GMT
Out on the street again and this little shrine reminds us to go check out that grape-freeze-colored church we saw earlier. Incidentally, for anyone who finds this a church-heavy thread: Puebla is churches. It's positively crammed with them, each one filled with surprises, whether naive art, ott baroque, or just plain weird, and it's part of the the Puebla experience to at least glance into some of them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 0:19:25 GMT
I'm going to Hell for this...W-a-a-y back we saw a pic of what patrick named "Jesus on the lav"...has he got a cell phone to his right ear? The temptation to slip an old phone into the palm of the hand....! So that people won't have to go hunting for it, here is that photo again. imageshack.com/a/img921/2702/qIMvXj.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 0:24:06 GMT
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Post by questa on Nov 20, 2016 0:42:43 GMT
Thanks Kerouac 2...meet you in Hell, bring your camera!
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 5:21:03 GMT
Hmmm ~ more than a little similarity between Kerouac's last picture in his post above & my picture starting this post. Out of that church and into the street again ~
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 5:27:44 GMT
Out of the cool low light of the church into bright sunlight ~
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 5:48:16 GMT
We meander back toward the area of our hotel, peering into doorways and stores along the way ~
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 5:59:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 6:49:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 6:55:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 8:45:29 GMT
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Post by breeze on Nov 20, 2016 11:57:09 GMT
It's good to see some variety in church decor. Do you think Vatican architects gave that any consideration? "Well, we did the encrusted-in-gold look for the cathedral and even though everybody thought it was fantastic, we're still in the doghouse for busting the budget on that one. So maybe for this new church we should try something, um, I won't say minimalist, but simpler. Let's look at the latest issue of Church Beautiful to see what's trendy."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 14:50:14 GMT
There is a falsehood concerning Puebla about it having 365 churches "one for every day of the year." This is a popular falsehood, because there are people who say that France has 365 cheeses "one for every day of the year." People like to exaggerate. This just lets me say that churches are like cheeses -- they come in every style. From emmenthal to roquefort to reblochon to camembert, there is a world of difference in cheeses, and the same is true of the way people build churches. And there are probably just as many people who argue about which style is the best.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 16:32:00 GMT
This is one of the most complete threads ever in terms of "being there"! And believe me, I'm not saying that because of my pictures, but because of yours. You have really captured the feeling of the place, not only with "the sights", but also with the homely and everyday details. Your pictures and narrative capture the pace and flavor of our visit, and that streets-of-Puebla video totally nails the spirit of the city and its inhabitants.
I have more stuff to add, but am trying not to overdo it. I'm looking forward to your coverage of the night parade. Stay tuned, folks, as there is more fun to come.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2016 18:31:11 GMT
Here is a very short slideshow of the ofrenda at the Municipal Palace. Please check it out, as it does show some of the festive appreciation there. The altar represents the real altar of the Chapel of the Rosary in Templo Santo Domingo, Puebla. Go to this post (mine ) for a look at the real altar. HD and full screen, please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 22:09:17 GMT
I got very few acceptable night time shots since I was concentrating more on the video footage that I already posted in the second part of the parade video way back in reply #13. But here is the video link again in case you missed it.
We waited more than an hour in the crowd for the parade to start. The crowd dynamics were identical to anywhere else in the world where I have been -- outrage at last minute cheaters who suddenly stand in front of everybody and the ultimate expulsion of same. But what was really interesting was a group of teens with a stroller, with which they were being both careful and careless. Some of their coats had been thrown over the stroller to hide the small child that we assumed was inside. It turned out that the baby was not real at all, but an educational tool to educate young people about how difficult and awkward it is to take care of a small child before you are ready, since teen pregnancy appears to be a big problem in Mexico. They took the fake baby out to hold it -- and pass around -- and it is apparently the weight of a real child and not just a hollow doll, so that you understand what a pain it can be to carry a baby all the time. Although I was not able to follow most of the conversation that they were having about it, it seemed clear to me that the lesson was definitely being learned. I don't know if it was an official school project or something arranged by some other organisation, but it was one of the highlights of the evening for me because even though I had vague knowledge of this being done in many places around the world, I had never really seen the test in person.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 21, 2016 1:07:52 GMT
We were surrounded by a really nice group of people in the parade crowd, which was good since we had to wait a long time. To expand on Kerouac's story of the babydoll-as-lesson ~ The mother had explained about it being a school project for her daughter to learn what a responsibility having a child is. I turned to the barely adolescent daughter & asked if she'd learned that lesson. She gave me a big smile and said, "Oh, yes", then laughingly turned to her mother and said that now she knew to bring a bunch of bottles and diapers to leave when Mom kept the baby over the weekend so that she, the daughter, could go out.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 21, 2016 1:22:58 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 21, 2016 1:42:24 GMT
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Post by questa on Nov 21, 2016 3:35:41 GMT
And you have finished with a bang! a beautiful clever composition of crimsons and golds with 3 stark white beams like lightning bolts cutting through the dark in an elegant display of perspective. I start to look at the colors on the right but my eyes have to zoom down to the almost meeting of the whites. I have just stared at this for ages and seen something new each time. A wonderful way to finish, but you always keep the best til last, don't you?
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 21, 2016 4:37:06 GMT
Oh, too kind, Questa ~ thank you! There will be a little more to come. This is after all Kerouac's thread. He kept the ball rolling with great detail both in pictures and in text, and he will be finishing it off.(Probably as soon as he gets up in his time zone.) I have so much enjoyed being able to contribute, and it was a fun challenge to keep our posts coordinated. Htmb always takes wonderful pictures, but she is traveling right now. I imagine she will produce another lovely Puebla thread when time permits.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 6:21:53 GMT
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