Yes, I read about this yesterday our time, but didn't post anywhere as I had nothing to say except that it was dreadful. All I could think of was the IRA bombing there 2 decades ago, causing massive damage but fortunately not killing anyone.
Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 4, 2017 13:42:45 GMT
I'd caution the use of a certain word. I think we all know that it's a tiny group of murderous, misguided fanatics who are carrying out these attacks. Unfortunately it's likely to stir up anti-Islamist feeling again, which isn't going to help. They are CRIMINALS at the end of the day...not Muslims (even tho they claim to be so).
In fairness, back in the old (pre-Trump) days, the French Minister of the Interior could probably assume that it was okay to repeat something the Americans told him.
By now everyone knows that Ariana Grande returned to Manchester and gave a benefit concert with other starts. The show went on even though the world was shocked by a terrorist attack in London some hours earlier. time.com/4804863/ariana-grande-manchester-concert/
I watched most of the concert on television since there was nothing else to watch on my 150 channels. I admired the quality of the audience but I was rather appalled by the quality of the out-of-tune or out-of-rhythm singers, except for Chris Martin who stood out compared to the others. I guess it goes to show how important rehearsals are for most of these singers, since they normally sound fine when they are prepared. This time, though, some of them had at most just 24 hours to figure out what to do and probably not all of their usual musicians.
I went with my daughter to concerts of Milly cyrus and Cody Simpson. There were 95pc of kids - girls of 11 to 15 mostly. All very excited. Now our eldest goes to torout werchter and we ask ourselves if it is a good idea. ...
I am quite satisfied that there has been an improvement on all sides over the handling since the last case -- no names or photos released yet. It is none of our business -- yet -- and there is no need to whet our curiosity until as many angles of the case have been examined as possible.
Nothing to do with being lily-livered; I don't see anyone denying the existence of hyper-violent Islamist extremist movements. The problem is that they are a movement of a new kind, where the foot soldiers are recruited by social media (the same is also true nowadays of their white violent-far-right counterparts). It is a very tough nut for the police and authorities to crack. On of their crew here, a guy of white francophone stock, was a "normal" young man who drank beer and played sport. He was going through some kind of mental-health crisis and latched on to Daesh. He murdered a soldier at a nearby military base by hitting the latter with his car.
Perhaps someone in the Liberal Democrats made such a statement? I confess I hadn't really been following them, mostly the Conservatives and Labour, and a bit the SNP because of the issues of independence and Europe.
And kaffir or kufr is a very nasty word as well... So is calling young people on a night out "Crusaders".
Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 5, 2017 18:39:46 GMT
Kerouac I have to agree with you about many of the artists performing at the concert last night. But the audience seemed to enjoy themselves..a young lady I used to work with was at the event, she told me that it was ALL brilliant from her perspective in the crowd. My brother was ranting about it being too soon and disrespectful to the bereaved...but I'm fairly sure that it left better memories than the last concert a lot of the audience went to a fortnight ago
I agree with you, Cheery. It can't have been easy to get up there and perform on the same stage again so soon after the tragedy, or even to attend the event.
I sent one of my sisters the link about "what makes Brit reel" and she wrote this back:
We need to remember that these are the same folks (kids, of, actually) who smoked cigarettes and calmly played cards in the underground during the bombings of London in WW2. Stiff upper lip is a real thing!
Traditionally even the worst scum are entitled to those; of course to me that brings to mind the Catholic Church refusing to "judge" Mafiosi, which often took the form of allowing elaborate funerals for murderers and druglords. That has changed too, at long last, but traces remain. I understand the idea that for religious people, only God can judge, but it is important to make such violent thugs utter outcasts.