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Post by onlyMark on Jan 26, 2018 19:40:20 GMT
Most places have accents, no doubt about it, and their own words, and I've mentioned before the East Midlands accent, specifically those who may remember a little audio file I made of me speaking in a north Nottinghamshire dialect. A surprise I had today was whilst flicking around the internet I checked out a well known site called BuzzFeed. You may or may not have seen it but it appears to be quite well known. I saw they had a little quiz as to if you can understand Nottinghamshire "slang". Needless to say, I got them all right but if you have a go, imagine in your head saying the words in a bit of a Yorkshire accent. It might help - though maybe not with the actual slang word itself. Cheery may do well but I'm not so sure about Mick or Mossie. www.buzzfeed.com/jenthomas/can-you-speak-nottinghamshire?utm_term=.gkX5qMpAg#.kcG1Nn0zr
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 26, 2018 20:43:17 GMT
I got 11!
Ha!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jan 26, 2018 21:41:07 GMT
14...it wuddabin 15 burri wentoff arfcocked.....on one of the answers I had dyslexic fingers (meduck)
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 27, 2018 3:23:37 GMT
*cough* You got 11 out of 16 right! You can speak Nottinghamshire Congratulations!
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Post by mich64 on Jan 27, 2018 4:12:42 GMT
I knew I would do poorly but was intrigued to try. I got 4 correct and I think that was just pure luck! It was very interesting trying to understand and interpret the phrases.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 27, 2018 6:41:19 GMT
I got 5.
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Post by onlyMark on Jan 27, 2018 7:13:33 GMT
Well done for trying all of you. I am impressed. Cheery, as expected, got the closest with Mick close behind. I think it wasn't the accent part that tripped people up, more often the use of an unknown word - e.g. croggeh - derived probably from crossbar and/or crossways, on a bike, where you'd normally give someone a lift. Though I did nearly trip up on "blortin" as the word scratin is more common in the further north of the county.
One wrinkle that would make it a little more difficult if it was purely from the village I was brought up in is that often variations of the old 'thee' and 'thou' is still used, thus making something like the phrase, "Tha's puddled" - meaning "you are crazy". Well done again though.
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Post by bjd on Jan 27, 2018 8:17:36 GMT
I got 10, mostly by trying to think it out loud. Must be because I spent a week in Nottingham when I was about 5.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 27, 2018 16:40:10 GMT
What am I -- chopped liver?
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Post by onlyMark on Jan 27, 2018 18:56:17 GMT
Did you try it?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 27, 2018 19:30:40 GMT
I bet that some of us could beat you on a test about American southern blacklish. When I went to university in Los Angeles, some of my friends needed me as an interpreter when we went to buy groceries in a section of Watts dominated by Deep South blacks.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 27, 2018 19:53:51 GMT
Humph, Mark -- I posted my results above, which are the same as Mick's.
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Post by patricklondon on Jan 27, 2018 19:59:57 GMT
I got 14, but quite a few of those aren't exclusively Nottingham (cob on, nesh*, goosegogs). Mind, I did live in Stoke for a few years, so that helps. *which I find I am as I get older. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 20:37:04 GMT
What am I -- chopped liver? Bixa, I don't think you made it clear that you got 11. Anyway, I got 9. (this brought to mind a scenario many years ago. I went into a local Rite Aid (pharmacy and then some of everything kind of store) There I saw a group of women store clerks trying to decipher WTF a friend of mine who was a Brit was inquiring after. I said hello to him and one of the ladies asked me to please try and interpret what he was saying. He was looking for bamboo skewers but how he was saying it made no sense to them. I understood right off but I guess mainly because I knew him even though half the time I hardly understood what he was saying. I don't remember exactly where he was from. I remember having no clue what the dialogue was when I saw the film "Trainspotting".
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Post by questa on Jan 27, 2018 22:36:48 GMT
I think I would like "Taggart" except I can't understand a word. "Dalziel and Pascoe" poses similiar problems. However I enjoy listening to the different forms of English from "Vera" to "Lynley" and the teams in "Father Brown" and "New Tricks". They are all so diverse and yet a common language.
I travelled with a UK group in Nepal and one chap was a taxi driver in Blackpool. His wife had to translate everything he said because his dialect was in-comprehensive to the rest of us.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 27, 2018 23:13:45 GMT
I am often relieved to see certain British movies with French subtitles. Trainspotting was one of them.
However, when I saw the first Mad Max movie, I was so furious that I even wrote a letter of complaint to the distributor (I think it was 20th Century Fox in France). They released the movie dubbed into American, even in France. It was the most horrendously awful thing that I have ever heard.
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Post by onlyMark on Jan 28, 2018 6:32:48 GMT
*cough* You got 11 out of 16 right! You can speak Nottinghamshire Congratulations!
I see what you mean now Bixa. What fooled me is the lack of quote marks. I thought it was you saying it about Mick and not the quiz. However, with that score, and being a foreigner, you'd easily pass the Nottinghamshire citizenship test, thus allowing you to live in the caves under the castle for example.
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Post by onlyMark on Jan 28, 2018 10:24:08 GMT
In mentioning Nottinghamshire, and in the case Notts Police, I am very glad they have seen fit to address the issue of women in the force who are suffering during their menopause. I see they have issued guidelines and appropriate information will be provided to all staff and support staff regarding the menopause. It is high time for this, I'm sure. They will - "Highlight awareness, training and development for police officers, police staff, police volunteers and management." Also - "Risk assessments are carried out for every duty/role expected of a police officer or police staff member during the menopause." Plus - "Work conditions will be reviewed to take account of the difficulties that some women experience during the menopause." The Police Officers and other staff will be trained on what the menopause is and how to manage it, especially relevant or the 'line managers' so they can recognise the problem and seek solutions accordingly - though measures will also be in place for those suffering to feel more comfortable in talking about it. The following document does give a definition and offers advice and instructions as to the policies to be implemented. The Force says - "We will take a pro-active stance by promoting a greater understanding of the menopause and seeking to eradicate any exclusionary or discriminatory practices." Thank god for that. It was a major problem all the way through my service career and one of the reasons I left was because I just didn't know how to cope with it. A deaf ear was turned whenever I raised the subject. The women didn't want to talk about it and the men were just 'men' about it. I wish we had had then what is available now, such as the "Menopause Working Group", to guide us/me. Apparently to be provided are rooms - "Women going through the menopause may need to manage the impact of the symptoms, a private space to rest temporarily, cry or talk with a colleague before they can return to their workspace." There are also provisions for extra breaks, temperature controlled areas, desk fans or sitting near a window, removal of certain parts of the uniform, not wearing body armour, a number of other things, and the all encompassing "Risk assessment" to ensure the access to sanitary products plus, "Have workstation risk assessments been reviewed to take the menopause into account?" www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/sites/default/files/documents/files/PG%20050-Menopause_Managers_Guidev1.2.FINAL_.pdf This subject should have been addressed as comprehensively as this many, many years ago so that women, like my mother did, had more support than doing the only thing she used to do which was to flap her hand in front of her face, say she's having a hot flush, and carry on working her shift at the hosiery factory. All I can say is that with all the rules and regulations and equalness around I would have had a lot of fun in the Police demanding my equal rights - after all men suffer from the menopause for example as well, no? I would demand I don't go out on the streets, don't have to sit in a car without nearby toilet facilities, demand wearing only part uniform, want a room to cry in - with a fan or aircon - etc etc. And that is just on this subject, never mind all the other things I could get up to. The point is - yes, I fully support things that will ease the symptoms of a woman going through a period of menopause - but, well, I'm a bit speechless really. I would just love to sit in on a menopause awareness training course.
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Post by questa on Jan 28, 2018 12:31:27 GMT
"I protest, Sir. What about those of us who have not reached that stage and have to live with the vagaries of menstruation? Knowing that on or about a certain time each month we can turn into what our male colleagues consider to be cranky, unreasonable, touchy, moody and vague co-workers.
If we have to put up with head and back aches, we need facilities similar to our menopausal sisters. A quiet room should be allotted with a supply of hot water bottles and chocolates.
Sir, if there are cases involving children or dogs remember that we weep easily and would rather take out our feelings on crack addicts and skinheads.
Thank you for your attention, Sir"
(In Indonesia all female government workers are entitled to 2 days off each month at the start of their period. They are expected to 'rest' at home not gad about)
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Post by onlyMark on Jan 28, 2018 14:30:13 GMT
In Zambia it is enshrined in law that women are allowed a day or two off each month as well.
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Post by rikita on Jan 29, 2018 15:02:02 GMT
i got 8.
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