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Post by lagatta on Nov 17, 2018 23:40:37 GMT
It would have been friendlier to don a California cap, after all, most of that beautiful region is now in the US, except for Baja California.
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Post by whatagain on Nov 18, 2018 18:35:13 GMT
For those who speak french, here is the latest playword I heard about california fires : they start early since 'Ca crame même tôt' (Sacramento). Ok, I'll try to get a better one next time.
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 20, 2018 18:19:00 GMT
Obviously, I don't have access to most of the American reports about the situation, but I was watching a French report with the reporters having gone to Paradise. The images were just as shocking as the local reports, but what was interesting was a visit to a tent camp in Chico full of Paradise survivors, who were interviewed. There was a lot of solidarity with locals, who were setting up food stations and toilets, but the people were saying that neither FEMA nor the Red Cross had made an appearance. Can this possibly be true?
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2018 21:15:30 GMT
Not strictly true, but things are still quite dire. I posted this in one of my fb groups this morning. I assume the story is being monitored for updates, as I see it presently displays the correct time (gmt). www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/19/wildfire-refugees-california-chico-walmart-parking-lot-latestNow the fire refugees spend their days on the phone with insurance companies ... Many have spent hours lined up for assistance at a local mall, where Fema has set up its headquarters. ... A Butte county spokesperson has said official shelters will remain open as long as people are displaced, and that a taskforce is looking for more permanent housing options.
But that’s of little comfort to those ... who need help now and have limited financial resources to secure housing without Fema. It’s been difficult to get assistance, [an evacuee] said. ... Some aren’t waiting around. Bonnie Beck and her son Jon Mullen, have found shelter through their church since the early days after the fire. They’ve tried to get aid from Fema to find something more, but it’s been a challenging, disorganized process, they said, something they attribute to a lack of leadership from the organization. “It’s a national disgrace,” Beck said, adding that she had better experiences with the agency when she survived earthquakes in southern California. Her son blames Donald Trump, and is disappointed in the man he voted for, he said.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 20, 2018 21:25:50 GMT
This is what pisses the hell out of me. This is the Wal-Mart parking lot mentioned in the link above. Clothes and goods for the refugees are just strewn on the ground & you can see the tents are inadequate. Contrast that picture with this video of the tent city the orange turd is building in Texas to incarcerate foreign migrants. The Texas site seems luxurious by comparison. If that can be built in the middle of nowhere, if thousands of troops can be sent out with matériel as a campaign stunt, why the living hell can't organized, meaningful help be delivered to the displaced people in California? www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/inside-tornillo-expanded-tent-city-migrant-children-n919431
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Post by questa on Nov 20, 2018 22:20:14 GMT
Is this the same FEMA that covered itself in glory (not) after Katrina?
I don't want this to sound like I am bragging, but seriously if this had been in Australia by now the police or army would have checked all the ruins for bodies, the homeless would have been billeted and an emergency payment given to the victims to tide them over. The area would be crawling with insurance assessors to help people get started on claims. Donations of clothes etc would be sorted into boxes and treated with respect. The Army sets up kitchens and communications. Hundreds of volunteers know what to do, from just listening to a survivors story to organising child care while parents are busy. The veterinarians have a service that treats and houses horses and family pets. We have had experienced so many massive fires and cyclones and learn from each one. Maybe the US emergency leaders could spend time here. They would see how a disaster unites Australians and is non-political.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 3, 2018 6:23:28 GMT
I see the reported missing has fallen from 1,200 to 25.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 18, 2020 19:18:05 GMT
There was a report on the French news tonight about the slow recovery of Paradise, California. It was mentioned that one of the principal problems is that most of the electric wires in such places are not buried. This is finally being done in Paradise (it costs 3 times more than leaving them dangling in the air), but it is still a completely minority solution because people think it will never happen to them.
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