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Post by bixaorellana on May 15, 2019 21:40:47 GMT
Back in my Florence thread I mentioned that I didn't want to endure the lines and crowds involved in visiting the Duomo. But I read that Santa Maria Novella was even more worth seeing and decided to believe that. I was rewarded by encountering no line the day I went and finding few other people inside. The church does indeed deliver, in fact is more than just a church, as you will see. Before starting with the onslaught of photos, I will point out that I just barely touched upon the glories in the church and its cloisters. Truly, there is simply too much to take in. Here is the church's site, for in-depth information. Santa Maria Novella broke ground around 1246 and was finished around 1360. The church was consecrated in 1420. sourceLet's start with my walk there, here showing Piazza Santa Trinita with its statue of Justice atop a Roman column. The church of Santa Trinita ~ Here we are at The Loggia del Mercato Nuovo, built around the middle of the 16th century. Today it's a tourist magnet selling leather goods and souvenirs. On one side can be seen the statue of Porcellino, which attracts even more tourists.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 15, 2019 22:00:16 GMT
What I have learned from my two weeks in Italy is that over the centuries, sculptors here have seized on any opportunity to incorporate delicate drapery across breasts in their creations ~ Of all the images found in the religious paintings of Christianity, my favorites have always been the Annunciation scenes, particularly those of the early Renaissance. Imagine my pleasure on seeing these beautiful examples ~
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Post by fumobici on May 16, 2019 0:10:31 GMT
Haven't been inside S.M.N. in yonks, probably the nineties. *Some* of that even looks familiar.
That patchwork restoration gives the last one a cubist aspect.
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Post by bjd on May 16, 2019 5:16:00 GMT
Good that some churches can remain visitable without lines and tons of people inside. I wonder what makes some places so busy and others, that are just as worthy, relatively unknown. It must be the "famous for being famous" aspect of contemporary life. I like those Annunciation scenes too.
The hog sculpture though is one of those inexplicable attractions, like the Manniken Pis in Brussels.
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Post by mossie on May 16, 2019 8:02:36 GMT
One just has to marvel at the workmanship and dedication shown by the artists of those days.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 16, 2019 8:48:41 GMT
That patchwork restoration gives the last one a cubist aspect. Ha ~ I hadn't noticed that. What I wonder about a painting like that is whether the artist would have chosen to use the gold touches if left to his own devices. Undoubtedly the painting was commissioned and of course the gold makes it show up better in a church, but I can't help but think that it's an example of lily-gilding. Good that some churches can remain visitable without lines and tons of people inside. Honestly, I am rather dreading the Vatican, which will come at the end of my trip. I can't imagine not going to see it, but reading about the crowded experience on various travel sites is disheartening. The sentence, "We had a guide, so were taken directly to the highlights" just makes me feel glum. One just has to marvel at the workmanship and dedication shown by the artists of those days. Oh Mossie, that is why I love those 13th, 14th and early 15th century periods so much. It seems the artists were truly inspired by the subject matter, with a pure desire to impart that vision apart from the technicality of producing the painting. In the earlier Annunciations, the angel always seems to be in another room, even in a room -- as in the second example above -- that the Virgin cannot see. Contrast that with the first example, where the bottom half indeed rather purely depicts the miraculous message, whereas the top half is filled with overly ornamental angel children and that look-how-well-I-do-drapery bit on the left. The dove/Holy Ghost even seems an unnecessary afterthought.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 16, 2019 9:17:45 GMT
As I said earlier, the many pictures I'm showing barely begin to cover what is in this magnificent church and its cloisters and auxiliary rooms. Let's finish up what I have on the "middle part" of the main church before moving on to other glories ~
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 16, 2019 10:26:17 GMT
I really love the beautiful paintings with gold leaf, Thank you Bixa...I rarely visit churches but they do often have the most exquisite works of art in them, the power of the church is reflected in the rich ornamentation of the work. The respect and awe of the population helping to preserve it all I suppose.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 17, 2019 5:51:34 GMT
Once again I am struck at how different architecture can be in two neighbouring countries. Santa Maria Novella is spectactularly different from anything that I have seen in any other European country and yet the same architects and artists constantly moved back and forth between Italy and France, just to mention those two countries. Presidents Macron and Mattarella were just in Amboise and Chambord together for the 500th anniversary of Michelangelo's death. He died in Amboise but was buried in Florence, so you would think that there would be more similarities between the two countries. I imagine that Italy's access to spectacular white marble has something to do with that, but that's just a detail. In any case, the church is phenomenal, and I find a sort of Tardis effect -- "bigger on the inside." I have to admit, though, that Italian Renaissance art definitely overdid the golden halo effect on all of the saints.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 17, 2019 9:22:41 GMT
Thank you, Cheery! There are so many churches here that I hesitate before going into one, since there is high danger of ecclesiastical fatigue, as you can readily imagine just from looking at this thread. And I hasten to assure you that I have discarded scads of photos from this church, just because there is too much to take in. Kerouac, I didn't know that Michelangelo died in France. "Tardis effect" is a perfect description. I could not believe how huge the place is inside compared to how it seems on the outside. You can see how that halo thing could get out of hand. Ooo ~ access to gilding on one hand, and considerations such as giving some minor saint a really nice halo, then having to go back to enlarge and enhance a heavyweight's halo.
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Post by bjd on May 17, 2019 12:07:19 GMT
Bixa, it wasn't Michaelangelo who died in France but Leonardo da Vinci.
I really like the golden halos and gold coloured mosaics on the old churches. I prefer it to the later Renaissance paintings.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 17, 2019 15:42:24 GMT
I admit that I am going senile. Michelangelo was a country bumpkin who never left Italy.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 19, 2019 6:39:05 GMT
Bjd, I totally agree with you about preferring the earlier Renaissance stuff. It seems so pure somehow. Yeah, Kerouac ~ and you dragged trusting little me down with you and your bad information!
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Post by kerouac2 on May 19, 2019 10:48:41 GMT
I love glass coffins. I don't understand why they are no long an option at the undertaker.
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Post by lagatta on May 19, 2019 15:41:42 GMT
In those Heaven vs. Hell allegories, Hell looks truly hellish, but Heaven looks rather boring. I think I prefer the Muslim version where Paradise is a splendid garden with water features.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 19, 2019 15:48:21 GMT
When I started Catholic school, even at age 6 I was horrified by the idea of people living (eternally!) up in the clouds. Everybody knows that there is nothing up in the clouds.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 19, 2019 16:54:29 GMT
Gret stuff...glass coffins? good grief. Love the older paintings...not one for cherubs and cleverly painted folds of cloth.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 21, 2019 21:13:32 GMT
On the subject of Heaven, Hell, etc. ~ it's a shame the Church did away with Purgatory, as otherwise I'm sure all who drag themselves through this endless thread would receive plenary indulgences. So, now we're outside in the smaller cloister. It does look small, but goes on well past the classic greensward with arcades we see when we first exit the church ~
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Post by bixaorellana on May 21, 2019 21:53:48 GMT
This post will finish off what I have on Santa Maria Novella.
Here we are at the Grand Cloister: The Grand Cloister of Santa Maria Novella is called that precisely because it is quite large, with 56 arcades surrounding the internal courtyard corridor. ... Built between 1340 and 1360 [it] hosted along three of its four sides dormitories for the friars living here. Two centuries later, two noble Florentine families and the Grand Duke Cosimo I de’ Medici financed the decorations of all of the walls with frescoes of the life of St. Domenic and other Dominican saints, scenes from the life of Christ (at the corners) and portraits of important members of the Santa Maria Novella community (on the pilars). The fresco cycle was largely painted within 1570 and 1590 by over 15 various artists from the Accademia ... source
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Post by fumobici on May 21, 2019 22:23:51 GMT
Impressive! I'm ashamed to admit I probably got a better look at SMN in this report than I did actually being there. We were in a hurry, and my parents had seen it and wanted to go get lunch. I'll be back in Florence soon, I should probably see it again.
The light blue devil with the mohawk is pure punk.
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Post by lagatta on May 21, 2019 22:34:09 GMT
Those demons look a lot like the proverbial date from hell.
I was also touched by the stone for the teenage girl.
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Post by bjd on May 22, 2019 6:29:31 GMT
Amazing that all this has survived so many centuries. I particularly like the busts of St Ursula and one of the virgins.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 23, 2019 22:12:38 GMT
No shame, Fumobici! I fight down being embarrassed about not always going to a major art museum when I have the chance, especially since it might be a once-in-a-lifetime chance. But what can you do when the chance comes along and you're just not in the right mood/frame of mind/feeling stingy/whatever to want to take advantage? And really, really taking in one place can take out the oomph you might have to take in another even more worthy one. It bothers me that blue devil doesn't have the nice spike earring he needs! LaGatta, you perfectly touched on extremes of sentiment and depiction that accumulate in a place that old. It is amazing, Bjd, although I think I read somewhere that there has been extensive repainting over the years. I was surprised and charmed by Ursula and one of her virgins.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 26, 2019 8:07:23 GMT
The outside murals are amazing! even if they've been worked on the restoration has been done very symathetically. I expect the climate helps preserve them too but they really are astonishing. I know nothing about the 11,000 virgins of Cologne or St Ursula. I shall Google.
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