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Post by questa on Dec 15, 2019 1:04:55 GMT
Does anyone remember the sitcom "Til death us do part"? The family are pure lower class workers, the sort that would vote Labour for generations, but the father always considered himself Conservative because it made him feel more upper class, where he felt he should have been. His ridiculous arguments and references to "Our dear Queen" were met with lively opposition from the rest of the family. The class system was the key to the humour and the obvious difference between the old man trying to act 'upper' and the reality of where he was. He always voted Conservative, even though it gave him nothing.
This was long ago, how is your memory?
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Post by monetsmum on Dec 15, 2019 7:22:02 GMT
However. Now the election is done we should maybe put our differences aside and concentrate on the things we have in common rather than our differences. The past few years have been so divisive...I don't know about other families but we've had some real, stand on the chair shouty rows. (Mostly about the biggies like Brexit and immigration). I hope that we get back on an even keel and start building up social care and increase funding for schools etc... Not quite shouty rows for me Cheery, but I had reason to give my eldest son a telling off, and I did it on twitter last week. Never before in his 46 years has he had the remotest interest in politics, but Brexit and immigration got him fired up. He'd replied to one of Corbyn's tweets and called him very rude names. I replied, whatever your opinion and whoever you vote for there's no excuse for toxic comments when you've been brought up better than that. I did take the sting out of it by saying 'Still love you son'. He's happy with the election result but I fear he'll lose his interest in politics now; and I'll miss our little spats.
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Post by monetsmum on Dec 15, 2019 7:24:20 GMT
Does anyone remember the sitcom "Til death us do part"? The family are pure lower class workers, the sort that would vote Labour for generations, but the father always considered himself Conservative because it made him feel more upper class, where he felt he should have been. His ridiculous arguments and references to "Our dear Queen" were met with lively opposition from the rest of the family. The class system was the key to the humour and the obvious difference between the old man trying to act 'upper' and the reality of where he was. He always voted Conservative, even though it gave him nothing. This was long ago, how is your memory? I remember it well!
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 15, 2019 7:56:25 GMT
Of course I remember it you silly moo!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 15, 2019 10:57:34 GMT
I wasn't allowed to watch it. My parents thought it was common.(we were common). Hard to believe I know but I didn't swear at all until I left home and started nursing...even now I don't tend to swear much outside the house. In front of the TV my language gets quite colourful I spose...and when I was working I would swear PROFUSELY and at length quite frequently...at the telephone after I'd returned the receiver
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Post by mossie on Dec 15, 2019 11:12:50 GMT
The whole of my working life the air was full of profanity, but at home strictly forbidden. Now I am single again I find that I am swearing profusely at anything. However I still hate to hear it in the street and on the TV.
But Til Death us do Part was a superb look at life, but would be very non PC today, remember Mick omitted that Alf said "Silly old Moo" to wind up the ageists as well as the feminists.
All in all an era which is sadly missed in these snowflake days, when absolutely everything is construed as giving offence.
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Post by questa on Dec 15, 2019 23:46:58 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Dec 16, 2019 10:25:30 GMT
I have thought for years that it was a woman. Berthe Holbrecht. 🙄
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Post by questa on Dec 16, 2019 11:03:05 GMT
If calling someone a silly old moo is ageist-and feminist, does the moo indicate cattle-ist ?
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Post by bjd on Dec 16, 2019 15:55:02 GMT
"The answer to Brexit, the Conservative Party’s election victory and everything in British politics is (with apologies to Douglas Adams) 336,038.
That number is what you get when you divide the 3,696,423 total votes cast nationally for the Liberal Democrats party in last week’s election by the 11 seats the party actually won. By contrast, Prime Minister Boris Johnson led his Conservative Party to victory via a far more economical average of 38,265 votes for each of its 365 seats — a roughly tenfold difference in the parties’ ability to translate votes cast into seats won.
The Conservatives’ triumph and the Liberal Democrats’ disaster were both the result, in large part, of a factor that is rarely discussed but crucial for understanding the country’s political chaos: Britain, like the United States, operates a “first past the post” electoral system, in which parliamentary seats are awarded to the candidate who wins the most votes in each individual race, rather than by proportion of the total national vote."
From today's NY Times, although I saw something similar in a different place.
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