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Post by tod2 on Jan 27, 2022 9:00:07 GMT
Bixa - you are frightening me. Getting Covid although vaccinated is not what I want to see happen to Mr. & I. He has had dreadful sinus for a month now and begging, suggesting, being fed, up has not worked. I get the "I'm fine" reply all the time as he breathes through his mouth. Why are men so stubborn.
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Post by biddy on Jan 27, 2022 16:15:18 GMT
We have changed out our masks - no longer wear the cloth masks now as was suggested.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 27, 2022 16:35:12 GMT
What they have said about the basic surgical masks is that they offer excellent protection to stop you from spreading disease to other people but almost no protection for you not to be infected by other people. The stiffer N95 masks (called FFP2 in Europe) offer protection both ways. I confess that I still just wear a surgical mask.
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Post by tod2 on Jan 27, 2022 16:39:08 GMT
We have not heard from Lugg since 23rd. Are you OK there Lugg? The last we heard was you had a sore throat after visiting Enzo your grandson who had Covid along with his dad. Whats the latest?
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 27, 2022 18:45:00 GMT
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Post by rikita on Jan 27, 2022 22:37:23 GMT
What they have said about the basic surgical masks is that they offer excellent protection to stop you from spreading disease to other people but almost no protection for you not to be infected by other people. The stiffer N95 masks (called FFP2 in Europe) offer protection both ways. I confess that I still just wear a surgical mask. ffp2 is the most common one here, in a lot of places it used to be or still is required, so i have gotten used to them. i wear a surgical mask occasionally (like at work when i go to the kitchen to make tea, as there are only very few people in my office anyway), but in any more crowded place, i feel better with an ffp2 and try to make sure it fits very tigthly (that also helps against the glasses fogging up) ... recently i bougth some ffp2 masks that have flowers or other patterns on them, so they don't even have to be plain white anymore ...
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Post by lugg on Jan 29, 2022 16:29:34 GMT
We have not heard from Lugg since 23rd. Are you OK there Lugg? The last we heard was you had a sore throat after visiting Enzo your grandson who had Covid along with his dad. Whats the latest? Sorry Tod - I am absolutely fine , remarkably I have not tested positive and I guess if I don't tomorrow then I have escaped. Enzo and his mum and dad are all fine. Just his mum testing positive still but she is not unwell at all.
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Post by whatagain on Jan 29, 2022 16:54:36 GMT
I wear surgical mask mostly but ffp2 in Rer, trains and planes.
In Austria ffp2 was mandatory.
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Post by casimira on Jan 29, 2022 18:11:15 GMT
Great news Lugg on your not testing positive!!! What a relief!
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Post by bjd on Jan 29, 2022 19:37:15 GMT
Back home from our babysitting. Not only was the baby's nanny positive, but on Wednesday, the big (nearly 4) brother's nursery school teacher was positive so she is off until next Thursday. So that made two little kids to watch. Then we got news from our son in Canada that all his kids were sick -- the girls just very tired but their son with high fever. But they seem to have got better quite quickly and as of today, both parents were not feeling too well.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 29, 2022 20:44:59 GMT
Good grief, Bjd! I'm very glad you & your husband are well, but both of you must be wiped out from babysitting and from worrying about your children and grandchildren.
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Post by mich64 on Feb 3, 2022 0:02:39 GMT
Our group on here all seemed to get through the other variants but Omicron seems to have gotten to many Any Porter's and their families! I hope all are recovering and feeling better with each passing day.
My husband's heart specialist called him on Sunday (yes on a Sunday!) from Toronto and had a long talk on what happened and he is following up with the hospital to retrieve the ECG and ultrasound records from his ER visit to be transmitted to him and he will let us know what the plan will be going forward.
My sister-in-law (who we think was the first of our family to get COVID) was admitted into the hospital yesterday. She is no longer COVID positive but is now suffering from pneumonia caused by COVID. She does have COPD and fibromyalgia so we knew it was probably likely she would get pneumonia. She is doing better and is in the best of care. She has had her two shots and the booster.
Glad to read Lagatta that you got your booster!
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 3, 2022 0:17:13 GMT
Your poor sister-in-law, Mich -- what an awful snowball effect of illness!
Lovely to hear that your husband is in such good hands. I imagine he'll be a little bit stir-crazy so soon after retirement, but he couldn't have retired at a better time.
My best to both of you!
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Post by tod2 on Feb 3, 2022 14:08:10 GMT
Oh dear me. Mich my blood runs cold when I hear someone has contracted Covid resulting in the bug going to the chest. All I can say is that like my son who was so bad, the jabs will see her through. She has good care but I think the thing that saved my son was the nebuliser, very strong anti-biotics, and keep deep breathing as many times as you can to open those bronchial do= dats. Holding thumbs.
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 3, 2022 14:26:30 GMT
Masks are no longer obligatory outdoors in France, but most of us in Paris seem to still be wearing them. Of course the main reason that I do so is because I am about to take a bus or metro or go into a shop so it seems pointless to keep taking a mask off and putting it on again 2 minutes later.
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Post by tod2 on Feb 3, 2022 16:26:26 GMT
I was just discussing this with my hairdresser today. (I'm blonder than ever) So many workmen here keep working with their masks in plance althoght they are the only person mixing cement or laying bricks. But because it is strict law to wear you mask outdoors they do.
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Post by rikita on Feb 6, 2022 18:31:00 GMT
well, we got covid cases in the group with which we spent last week in switzerland, and upon return a. and i tested positive, too. feeling fine so far, though (and waiting for our pcr results) - only slightly dizzy in my case, and a throat ache, but i had that throat ache for over a week, already - and had several negative tests after it started, so it might just be a regular throat ache (or these other tests were wrong - or the test yesterday was wrong - but as that one was at an official test center, we are now quarantined until our pcr results - and since Agnes was positive, too, i suppose it is more likely that we have indeed got it) ...
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 6, 2022 18:43:31 GMT
The covid figures have finally started to drop in France, but I just wish that they would drop as fast as they went up. We went from 5,000 to 500,000 per day in about a month.
Sorry that you and a. tested positive, rikita, but at least it isn't nearly as scary as it was before we were all vaccinated.
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Post by bjd on Feb 6, 2022 19:28:21 GMT
My son-in-law and daughter both tested positive last week. He was sicker but deservedly so because he refused to be vaccinated and his aches and pains lasted longer. She had fever for about 24 hours, even with her triple vaccination. Their kids tested negative but my daughter thinks the covid was brought home from school.
Yes, numbers are dropping fast in France from what I saw -- about 25,000 fewer cases every day. I wonder whether they count cases when it's the second time someone gets it?
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 6, 2022 19:33:40 GMT
They count every positive test. And of course the reason that the figures skyrocketed was due to the massive testing in schools, with the second and third follow-up tests...
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 6, 2022 22:02:22 GMT
You are adorable, Tod! So sorry you two caught it, Rikita. I sure hope that Agnes remains asymptomatic & that you feel better soon. Bjd, you must be fairly angry at your son-in-law. I just learned from my mother that my younger brother -- not vaccinated -- also got it. I'm afraid my reaction was the same as yours: "deservedly so". What a pain for your daughter, who had to have felt awful & still take care of the rest of the family.
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Post by questa on Feb 6, 2022 22:46:07 GMT
So many workmen here keep working with their masks in plance althoght they are the only person mixing cement or laying bricks. But because it is strict law to wear you mask outdoors they do. Well done, those men! I don't care what the incentive is, so long as they mask up. And Bjd...No Way, Jose! Nursing and home comforts come as part of the package with vaccination part of the deal.
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Post by bjd on Feb 7, 2022 7:10:52 GMT
I blame my son-in-law's mother -- a pharmacist -- for saying vaccinations are not useful against covid. Stupid woman. Anyway, he was sick before my daughter and did deal with things when she got sick a few days later.
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Post by tod2 on Feb 7, 2022 7:25:46 GMT
I blame my son-in-law's mother -- a pharmacist -- for saying vaccinations are not useful against covid. Stupid woman I get a strange urge to hit that person really hard. They are not an uneducated moron but someone who should have the best knowledge of diseases and the cures. I'm really shocked at her saying something like that when the whole scientific world has proved vaccines work and have worked for over 100 years now. It's almost like you didn't hear her right.....wonder how she comes to that conclusion.
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Post by bjd on Feb 7, 2022 8:47:49 GMT
Tod, I haven't heard her directly -- she lives in Brittany and last time I saw her was before vaccines were available. I don't think she's an anti-vaxxer in general but she is interested in alternative medicine and treatment like acupuncture, shiatsu, homeopathy and stuff like that.
And I don't imagine that she would have advised a person coming to the pharmacy to buy vaccines on prescription not to use them. But I do think that my son-in-law and most of his siblings pay attention to what she says.
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Post by tod2 on Feb 7, 2022 9:22:33 GMT
I understand. Most anti-vaxxers that I know personally are either the "Home remedy" type or a religious faction that has their ideas. I think I'm right when I say not one anti-vaxxer has offered a sure antidote to Covid with their herbal mumbo jumbo. The strange thing is here the native African population have embraced the vaccination process. But, when it came to the AIDS epidemic, the craziest home remedies where put forward. All the government asked was for men to use condoms but alternatives were things like eating beetroot, drinking various potions were suggested. Then the dark side revealed men were told to sleep with babies and young children. So many little ones were violated and traumatised. Maybe if there had been a vaccine a lot of sad things may not have happened.
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Post by whatagain on Feb 7, 2022 9:44:10 GMT
Awful Tod. But men who would sleep with underage, whatever the reasons, are worse than pigs. We should castrate them.
I also think pharmacists who dont believe in medicine should not be allowed to work. And people who believe in homeopathy are dreamers. Which is ok, as long as they don't believe homeopathy can cure cancers, Covid and other Aids illnesses.
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 7, 2022 12:03:33 GMT
Homeopathic medicine is probably fine as long as it is used in conjunction with real medecine. Just like suddenly believing in god on your deathbed never hurts either.
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Post by rikita on Feb 9, 2022 22:15:17 GMT
finally got our pcr results - positive, as expected, but other than a bit of a throatache and tiredness for me, and moodiness and slight throatache for agnes, we are fine - guess we are lucky, a lot of other people i speak to who had it recently were much more sick ... agnes is just sad, because she can't visit her dad this weekend ...
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 9, 2022 22:32:02 GMT
So, Rikita ~ the two of you are still suffering the effects? As you say, lucky that it's not worse, but what a pain for you & little Agnes.
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