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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 26, 2022 14:21:43 GMT
On a Delta flight departing Rome a couple of days ago it was reported passengers were required to wear masks until the plane was airborne. Once up in the air, masks were optional for the rest of the trip. I would think that there is a certain logic to that since the forced air circulation in a pressurized cabin is supposed to be excellent against all airborne diseases. The problem is that psychologically for us, we are in a sealed environment, propitious to devastating contamination.
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Post by htmb on Apr 26, 2022 14:57:38 GMT
No mask wearing in the US airports either, so either things are settling down in the US, or there’s going to be a big spike of cases sometime in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 26, 2022 16:23:13 GMT
By "settling down", do you mean that mask mandates, etc., have been politically driven in the US since the beginning of the pandemic anyway?
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 26, 2022 16:42:17 GMT
I read that at the Coachella festival, the number of cases increased 77% since everybody broke every rule.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Apr 26, 2022 17:06:59 GMT
We are still wearing masks in crowded places and shops. My hairdresser will wear a mask if I ask her to when I go to get my hair cut later in the week.
My niece and her family have covid atm, for the fourth time! (They're fully vaccinated) This time it started off a bit like gastric flu. The eldest son got it first (19) I spoke to my niece in the telephone yesterday and she sounded like she had a bad cold. It's still around.
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Post by Kimby on Apr 26, 2022 17:29:23 GMT
My experience with Moderna (2 shots, 2 boosters) has been so easy that I have to wonder if there was any active ingredient in the syringe!
I’m always glad to feel a bit of soreness in the left shoulder a day or so later, so I know they injected SOMETHING!
BTW, US VP Kamala Harris has tested positive, with no symptoms. Joe Biden better start injecting disinfectants or eating horse tranquilizers... he’s definitely in the at-risk age group!
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 26, 2022 18:06:52 GMT
My niece and her family have covid atm, for the fourth time! (They're fully vaccinated) This time it started off a bit like gastric flu. Oh hell! I am sorry for them. This sounds like a new & different variant. My experience with Moderna (2 shots, 2 boosters) has been so easy that I have to wonder if there was any active ingredient in the syringe! I’m always glad to feel a bit of soreness in the left shoulder a day or so later, so I know they injected SOMETHING! Ha ~ I could feeeeel the vaccine being pumped into my arm this time. The poor nurses had been at their station all day in the heat, so were maybe capable of making mistakes. I watched mine fool with the syringes and the ampules & did wonder if maybe she was using too much. (as if I'd know) At any rate, not even arm tenderness until the big reaction that night, at which time everything hurt too much for me to notice any silly arm pain. But even yesterday my arm & shoulder were sore, although that's abating. Funny all the different reactions people have to the different vaccines.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 26, 2022 18:17:07 GMT
My daughter is convinced that the gastro enteritis I had a few months back was actually Covid.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 26, 2022 18:38:34 GMT
The symptoms are all so variable that sometimes it seems as though it could be mass hysteria -- if there were not the tests to authentify.
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Post by htmb on Apr 26, 2022 19:19:14 GMT
By "settling down", do you mean that mask mandates, etc., have been politically driven in the US since the beginning of the pandemic anyway? (Quoting Bixa in post 5252)
No, not at all.
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Post by mich64 on Apr 26, 2022 19:41:57 GMT
As like most places, we still have quite a few COVID cases but thankfully most are coping at home and the number in hospital remains low. I would say 80% of people still mask in the malls and grocerey stores. They say our 6th wave has peaked.
My in-law's had their 2nd booster yesterday and we take my parents Thursday. I think we qualify at the end of May but we are going to hold off until mid August inc case we get to travel in September.
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Post by Kimby on Apr 26, 2022 20:39:10 GMT
We debated doing that too, Mich, but by October we’ll be due for shot #5, and meanwhile we don’t want the family wedding we’ll be attending in 4 weeks to become a super-spreader event. Plus the transportation mask mandate was just dropped in the US, too.
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Post by questa on Apr 26, 2022 23:19:18 GMT
What? 5th injection? We have just started on pushing the 4th. I smell a bit of a racket going on. Are we expected to line up 2-3 times a year for jabs to maintain immunity?
Apparently there are 2 more variants spreading around here, one of which spreads more rapidly than any seen so far.
I'm over it all.
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Post by bjd on Apr 27, 2022 8:20:38 GMT
I too am amazed at 5th injections. No talk of that here and 4th only for those over 80 or else people with immunity problems. Do you have to pay for the shots in the US?
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Post by htmb on Apr 27, 2022 11:34:58 GMT
No. No charge in the US.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 27, 2022 13:08:23 GMT
I think too many people are over-medicated now, not just for covid.
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Post by Kimby on Apr 27, 2022 22:23:18 GMT
The 5th injection is only conjecture at this point. Dr. Fauci is saying it’s likely that COVID will become like the flu, for which we get a shot every fall. I’ve even heard they may do a combined flu/COVID shot in the future. Or that the next COVID booster may be more specific to the variant(s) currently in circulation.
On the TV news this morning they were saying that antibody testing is showing that up to 75% of American kids have been exposed to COVID, and maybe 60% of adults. So we are gradually getting closer to herd immunity, without crashing our medical infrastructure.
For a”novel virus”, I think they managed it fairly well.
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Post by rikita on Apr 30, 2022 23:05:07 GMT
at work out of about 12 people coming into the office, 4 are sick since beginning of last week, 3 of them work in the same room. i know that two of them (both vaccinated) have covid, don't know what the other two have. on the other hand, there hasn't been an email from school in ages now about covid cases in a's class (instead, we just got an email about a case of head lice) ...
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Post by lugg on May 1, 2022 19:33:06 GMT
I think that finally we are all starting to learn to live with it, as restrictions ease up everywhere - ok if you don't have reduced immunity. I still take precautions mostly now for others but I would not like to get it again.
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Post by rikita on May 1, 2022 21:42:12 GMT
overheard two women talking today, one was saying she thinks all that testing is nonsense, as these days, the tests only show positive when you already have symptoms anyway, so no use testing someone who doesn't have symptoms. the other woman said that she knows people who tested positive before they got symptoms. the first one talked about several people she knew that only tested positive after showing symptoms. the second one said that at her school, as they test kids regularly, she knows a lot of kids who tested positive and only developed symptoms later on. the first one said that maybe it is different for kids. the second one named various grown ups she knew who tested positive and got symptoms later on or got confirmed by pcr and never got any symptoms or only very vague symptoms. the first one just wouldn't have it, though - the conversation was friendly and all, but it seemed that because she, personally, apparently did not know anyone who tested positive before having symptoms, that thing did not exist no matter who the other person knew ...
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Post by questa on May 1, 2022 23:02:38 GMT
That conversation is being heard all around the world.
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Post by htmb on May 5, 2022 9:15:32 GMT
I’ve had all the symptoms of allergic sinusitis due to pollen and dust in the air, but decided I should take a home Covid test just to be sure. I certainly didn’t want to risk passing on a nasty virus. The test was negative, thank goodness. What we need here is a good, long rain shower to clear the air and help relieve my itchy nose and scratchy throat.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 5, 2022 17:05:32 GMT
I'm going around with those same problems as the dusty dry season drags on. Since it's Spring, there is also lots of pollen in the air. I hugely recommend keeping Hall's extra-strength lozenges on hand. They're the ones in the black wrapper & will clear your head, open your nasal passages, and soothe your throat. The effect lasts for hours, so you don't need to worry about continuously reaching for another sugar-based lozenge.
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Post by questa on May 5, 2022 23:17:32 GMT
Would they be the ones sold here called "Fisherman's Friend"with a logo of a trawler in rough seas? They are " weapons grade" when it comes to sorting out throat problems. I have to just have a half or so -too strong for me!
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Post by bixaorellana on May 5, 2022 23:35:40 GMT
No -- it's Hall's brand. Click here: {Halls extra strong / black wrapper}
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Post by whatagain on May 6, 2022 7:05:43 GMT
Germans are much more stressed than French or Belgians these days. Seems Covid is high there and yiu see more masked people. When i said maybe it was due to lower vaccination rate, the woman said she got it yet had been shot 3 times (geimpft is key word niwadays... ). Undertitles : vaccination is useless. I agreed, smiled and left.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 11, 2022 17:52:51 GMT
Masks will no longer be required on public transportation in France starting Monday (metro, buses, trams, trains, taxis), nor for flights in the EU.
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Post by rikita on May 13, 2022 21:55:39 GMT
hm, but when i look at numbers online, it seems belgian and french vaccination rates are only very slightly above the german ones ...
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Post by kerouac2 on May 14, 2022 8:43:01 GMT
They are paying less attention to the number of infections now since omicron multiplied the figures so much. Decisions are being made more on the basis of hospitalisation,which contiçue to decline.
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Post by mickthecactus on May 14, 2022 8:57:56 GMT
Not looking good in N. Korea.
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