Bob Dylan

[mickthecactus]

I'm a big Dylan fan and have just been listening again to Modern Times which I haven't listened to in years. Terrific album.

Looked up the stats on it and it was in the top 3 in most countries but not France which had it at 17.

[kerouac2]

I would say there are two reasons for that. 1. In those days, the French didn't speak all that much English and it is difficult to appreciate Dylan if you don't understand the words to the songs since it is not really the voice or the melody that will suck you in. 2. Also in those days, the French were specialists in making French language adaptations of most of the hit songs from Britain and America. I suspect that you would find the same situation regarding Italy and Spain.

[fumobici]

Actually, in Italy most pop music stations play mostly American pop music.

[kerouac2]

In 2020 most definitely, but absolutely not in the days of the dinosaurs.

Not an overwhelming proportion of American pop music in the Italian hit parade of 2006 : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number-one_hits_of_2006_(Italy)

[mickthecactus]

It was 2006.

The asteroid had hit many years ago.

[kerouac2]

OK boomer.

[mickthecactus]

Has a new album out,Rough and Ready Ways. Getting rave reviews.

[casimira]

T. and I are and have been huge fans of him forever it seems.
T. knows more of the lyrics by heart than I do and can recite in a heartbeat any Dylan song you could possibly name.

The new album is fabulous. The song "Murder Most Foul" has already been memorized by guess who?

And, Netflix just added the documentary that PBS broadcast as part of it's American Masters series in 2005 and we watched it in the last few weeks. It's quite lengthy but well worth the long watch. (We had started watching it back in 2005 and then along came Katrina... I had forgotten all about it as that time frame for me is all a fog. When Netflix began advertising it I then remembered,"oh yeah, that sounds vaguely familiar").

No Direction Home directed by Martin Scorcese 

Dylan fans check it out. Very well done. Best musician biopic to come down the pike in awhile.

[questa]

Dylan fans...a question I have wondered about for years...

"Where have you been, my blue-eyed son..." In this Dylan lists a series of places and events that the "son" has seen and been on his travels.
Are these real or imaginary? If real events, what are the incidents mentioned in the song?

Looking back 50 years...the man was a Prophet

[mickthecactus]

Apparently it was a rewrite of an old folk song.

Dylan has often said there are not necessarily deep meanings to his songs, he just likes playing with words.

[casimira]

Mick, is there a means by which you can watch this documentary? I insist on you seeing it!

[mickthecactus]

I’ve a feeling I’ve seen it.
I shall check with grandsons. They know what to do.

[mickthecactus]

Jun 21, 2020 12:54:46 GMT mickthecactus said:

I’ve a feeling I’ve seen it.
I shall check with grandsons. They know what to do.

They did. It’s on my TV ready to view.

[mickthecactus]

Purely by chance, on Sky Arts, is the 1992 30th anniversary concert from Madison Square Garden.

[casimira]

Part of that is incorporated in the documentary I'm insisting you view.

Scorcese does much better in my opinion with directing and producing these types of films versus his Mafia obsessed 
movies of which I can't distinguish one from the other at a certain point.

I need to find the one he did of the Rolling Stones not too, too many years ago filmed at one of my favourite old theaters in Manhattan, The Beacon. Saw many a concert performed there. Unfortunately not the Stones though.

[casimira]

Heard this cover today while watching the movie The Goldfinch and had to look it up and have another listen. At first it sounded like Mick Jagger but alas...

[bjd]

Those are the Animals. I remember their version of The House of The Rising Sun back in the mid-60s. Eric Burdon may have gone solo at some point but I'm not sure.

They made a movie of The Goldfinch? I tried reading it but found it hard slogging and gave up after a couple of chapters.

[kerouac2]

The movie bombed everywhere in the world. The French title was Le Chardonneret. I think it was yanked after a week.

[bixaorellana]

Yeah, that does sound like Mick Jagger, Casimira. And Bjd, that's certainly not The Animals. I've never forgiven Them for G-L-O-R-I-A.

I didn't even know a movie had been made of The Goldfinch. Did you see it during its one-week run, Kerouac?

[kerouac2]

No, it looked like total crap to me. Sorry, casimira.

[bjd]

Jul 2, 2020 17:24:05 GMT bixaorellana said:

Yeah, that does sound like Mick Jagger, Casimira. And Bjd, that's certainly not The Animals. I've never forgiven Them for G-L-O-R-I-A.

I didn't even know a movie had been made of The Goldfinch. Did you see it during its one-week run, Kerouac?

Oops, you're right, Bixa. That didn't sound like Van Morrison to me but I only listened to a very short bit.

[bixaorellana]

I think it can't be Van Morrison, but one of the other ones. I only listened to a little bit also.

[casimira]

If y'all take the time to watch the whole thing, you will see it is Van Morrison. He's just a lot younger and uh, yeah, he does look different. When I heard the song while watching the movie, I was distracted as it was in the background of the action in the film and the likeness of the voice to Jagger had me convinced me that's who it was until I went looking for it afterwards.

It's worth a watch/listen good people, trust me on this even if you have a disdain for the book/movie it was used in.

And, Dylan's lyrics are right there to read on the screen for you to also appreciate, (back on topic here..)

[mickthecactus]

100% Van Morrison and the fact it says Them is the most enormous clue. They were touted as the Northern Irish answer to the Rolling Stones.

The graphics to the lyrics are rubbish but it's a great version.

[casimira]

Than you Mick. I knew I could count on you. What took you so long? You left me hanging with the ladies there, defenseless and all alone. Feeling guilty yet?

[mickthecactus]

Jul 2, 2020 19:55:21 GMT casimira said:

Than you Mick. I knew I could count on you. What took you so long? You left me hanging with the ladies there, defenseless and all alone. Feeling guilty yet?

I’m so sorry Casi. The posts sort of passed me by...

[casimira]

I can never get annoyed or angry with you Mick...never once, I swear.

[mickthecactus]

I am watching No Direction Home ....

[casimira]

Oh! I am so glad. It's lengthy to be sure but I persevered and watched it all in one sitting/lying down.

[mickthecactus]

Chrissie Hynde (Pretenders) has done an album of Bob Dylan covers. Very good indeed.