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Post by onlyMark on Mar 9, 2021 11:24:30 GMT
Blaming her for everything, like leading Harry around by the "knob" does neither of them justice. He was a professional soldier for 10 years, did charity work in Lesotho. Would he have managed to do that if he was such a wet rag as he is being depicted by the royal family defenders? He was in the military which looked after him. All the males had some form of military service apart from Edward who I think jumped ship early. I can't say he would have had a difficult time in service whilst being 'special' and even though the basic training may have been the same, since that ended I doubt from then on he would have been subject to the trials and tribulations of an ordinary soldier. Being in the military can be well suited to someone who has the mind set, like I think his is, that being shown what to do and when, having 'mates' around you, no thought of food or where to stay/live and so on. I doubt very much it was too much of a trauma for him and I think he liked it due to the 'regimented' lifestyle. Charity work is done by gap year students the world over in most countries in the world, nothing unusual or too stressful either - plus again, he was directed and didn't have to think too much for himself - which is the definition of what he would do within the royal family. More than likely by luck they both have found a suitable partner for themselves - she with a male she can influence and is pliable who just so happened to have an important position and he with a strong woman he thinks the world of and with strong opinions to direct him. I he a wet rag? Compare him to Princess Anne. He certainly tends more to the wet rag end of the scale than to her end. Is it all Megan's fault? No doubt the older and established household staff were discombobulated by a bumptious American entering their life so no, not all her fault as the staff more than likely found it difficult to adapt to her. Did she go out of her way to be deliberately difficult? No, don't expect so, it's just her character to know what she wanted and how she wanted it. What decisions did Harry make for them to end up where they are now? I doubt any independently. The impression is Megan is the motivator for change and he went along with it. It's certainly shook up the royal family, and they did need to be shook up but I do wonder what she could have achieved regarding change whilst being within the family and not apart from it. Controversy and alienation seem to be the only result so far. The royal family will stay how it is no matter Megan or Harry's antics I bet, whereas from within she would have had a greater influence, especially being media savvy etc. Change can only be affected on an institution as mired in tradition as that one is by cooperation, not by making them enemies and pissing them off - never mind the trait apparent in the British more than most of if you tell them what to do, they won't do it and will cut their nose off to spite their face so as to get back at you in a pyrrhic victory.
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Post by Biddy on Mar 9, 2021 15:00:18 GMT
I did not watch the interview and have tried to avoid the newspaper accounts. I find these two hard to take. Talk about self absorbed whiners. The race claim is nuclear of course. However how could M have not known that Archie wouldn't get a title until Papa ascends the throne. Doesnt she read at all? Well now they are independent and M doesn't have to look at the back of K's head at every official function. Just hope the money doesn't dry up. This drama will pass.
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Post by htmb on Mar 9, 2021 15:29:39 GMT
Was the interview really necessary? If they truly want to avoid the negative press, why give a two hour interview and whine about how mistreated they have been?
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Post by bjd on Mar 9, 2021 15:34:42 GMT
Given that so much is written about them, particularly in the British tabloids, perhaps they want to present their side of the story?
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 9, 2021 16:08:35 GMT
CBS paid US$7 million for the interview, although the Sussexes were not paid officially. And I'm sure that CBS has sold broadcast rights around the world for several times that amount. This whole farce is just a money factory, but people seem to love it. What would happen to the British tabloids if they weren't handed such stories on a platter? They certainly have nothing about which to complain because there is no paucity of idiots to buy their newspapers.
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 9, 2021 16:11:26 GMT
perhaps they want to present their side of the story? And they now have. I know they have a right to talk about it all, no problem with that and put their side. Their urge to do so must have overcome their wishes for privacy.
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Post by tod2 on Mar 9, 2021 16:33:44 GMT
Is it true you can only scrape up the past of wrong to you maybe once? Twice? Then how do you keep yourself in the limelight? Do you want to be in the media? They say No. Then why this interview. You know the old saying "Digging up the dirt?" Someone, somewhere, who knows a suspicious story will do just that. I think it's better to let Sleeping dogs lie.
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Post by Biddy on Mar 9, 2021 16:42:14 GMT
This will raise their profile in the US for a while and M will replace K on the cover of People or US Weekly for one week or so.
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Post by tod2 on Mar 9, 2021 16:44:48 GMT
and M will replace K on the cover of People or US Weekly for one week or so. Our very own Kerouac? What next!
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 9, 2021 16:45:59 GMT
True. Now that the Kardashians have dropped out of the spotlight, it was time for someone new to step up.
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Post by htmb on Mar 9, 2021 18:12:28 GMT
People here in the US really don’t care much about M & Harry. I think we’re just so bored after a year of covid, we’ll watch almost anything on television, especially if it has nothing to do with US politics.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 9, 2021 18:15:00 GMT
At least the Palace has not denied that there was clearly a problem. Not that they could do otherwise.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 9, 2021 18:45:05 GMT
.....meh.....
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 9, 2021 19:19:38 GMT
The only good thing to come out of the interview....Piers Morgan threw his toys out of the pram on live tv when a co-presenter called him out for slagging off Meghan...the insufferable prick has resigned. Hoorah.
I really don't like Piers Morgan.
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Post by fumobici on Mar 9, 2021 19:22:37 GMT
Piers seems about as popular as Andy Cuomo is currently.
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 9, 2021 19:32:44 GMT
The only good thing to come out of the interview....Piers Morgan threw his toys out of the pram on live tv when a co-presenter called him out for slagging off Meghan...the insufferable prick has resigned. Hoorah. I really don't like Piers Morgan. Come on Cheery. Say what you think. Get off that fence!
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 9, 2021 19:36:08 GMT
Has he resigned? Didn't know that.
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Post by bjd on Mar 9, 2021 20:11:37 GMT
Has he resigned? Didn't know that. "On Tuesday, Piers Morgan, the co-host of “Good Morning Britain” on ITV news, who came under attack for saying he “didn’t believe a word” of the interview, resigned, the network said. Britain’s communications regulator received more than 41,000 complaints about his comment, it said." (NY Times)
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 9, 2021 20:19:32 GMT
Sorry if I have offended PM fans. Apparently he is very popular (for some unfathomable reason) A couple of chums on fb think he's a ' breath of fresh air' which I can't see obviously ..they're not close friends
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Post by Biddy on Mar 9, 2021 20:51:44 GMT
Cheery - I suspect he was forced out. Apologize or else. He loves to create drama.
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 9, 2021 21:04:49 GMT
A breath of foul air. Good riddance.
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 9, 2021 21:08:29 GMT
Caught up with that news now. It seems there has been a social media campaign to get him 'cancelled'. I suspect out of the 41,000 complaints only a handful complained individually or even probably saw him. What don't you like about him Cheery? For me I don't follow much of what he has said in the past but he seems to speak half rubbish and half has a point. Entertaining anyway.
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 9, 2021 21:17:04 GMT
He was a tosser.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 9, 2021 21:30:07 GMT
Thank goodness..... I thought you (gulp) liked him
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 9, 2021 21:58:17 GMT
I don't like him because he's a bully, he's rude, self important and smug. Aggressive inerviewing techniques have their place, Robin Day and Jeremy Paxman scared me rigid (and I was just a viewer!) on newsnight! Using well researched data to back clear arguments when interviewing, holding those in power to account is justified..but Morgan seems to only regard his own petty opinions as relevant and just comes across as a loud, self important , not particularly bright - thug. Popular with Daily Mail readers (probably...sorry..my bias is showing)
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Post by htmb on Mar 9, 2021 22:06:22 GMT
We had to put up with him here in the US for awhile. Haven’t missed him one bit.
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Post by mich64 on Mar 10, 2021 0:15:55 GMT
I don't like him because he's a bully, he's rude, self important and smug. Haven’t missed him one bit. I tried watching him many times but was usually dissapointed. I found him to be a rude and a bully as well Cheery. I did not miss him at all either htmb. I will not be surprised to hear in the next few weeks that he has a new show perhaps on one of those new US cable news channels.
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 10, 2021 6:07:35 GMT
Can't say I've seen him conducting an interview or on the TV but I understand the dislike of him. Just didn't come across him too much at all.
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Post by lugg on Mar 10, 2021 19:22:17 GMT
A breath of foul air. Good riddance. Hear hear. But many others are supportive of course and want him mback. I suspect he's already got a new job lined up. I have still not watched the interview and really don't know that I ever will. Although, having read a lot about it in the press recently, it just confirms my thoughts about the royal family/ monarchy generally, which is that the monarchy is a dysfunctional anachronism that should be put out of its misery. And the recent press re the " Queens Consent" makes my blood boil.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 10, 2021 19:28:48 GMT
Anachronism is an understatement.
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