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Post by questa on Apr 14, 2020 12:39:17 GMT
Two famous Brits taken from us by the deadly virus. Stirling Moss, Former world champion driving Formula One races.
Tim Brooke-Taylor actor, comedian, and one of the great shows,"the Goodies"
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Post by casimira on Apr 14, 2020 14:00:31 GMT
By Bixa: Note that this thread was started because Questa stuck the above post in Musical Necrology. (Questa -- you can move the second part of your post into "Silver Screen Obits.)
Because the announcement was in the wrong place, it prompted Casimira to comment:Two famous Brits taken from us by the deadly virus. Stirling Moss, Former world champion driving Formula One races. Tim Brooke-Taylor actor, comedian, and one of the great shows,"the Goodies" Ummm, I thought this thread was for deceased musicians.
The conversation below ensued.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 14, 2020 14:46:20 GMT
There IS an obituary thread for actors and another one for people from the arts. We have never had one for the sporting world, though.
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Post by casimira on Apr 14, 2020 14:51:07 GMT
Well, the sound of race car motors is music to some people's ears I guess.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 14, 2020 14:53:02 GMT
Yes, what is WRONG with those people?
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Post by casimira on Apr 14, 2020 15:05:42 GMT
"Those people", I believe, are mostly males?
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 14, 2020 15:10:13 GMT
Actually, my second cousin Josette was totally obsessed by Formula 1 racing and most particularly Ayrton Senna. And when I say obsessed, I mean really obsessed to the extent that she wrote two books about Ayrton Senna that were published. Also one of the top posters on the Paris forum at Trip Advisor uses the name 'F1racegirl' and goes to every F1 race in Europe.
But yes, "those people" are still mostly males.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 14, 2020 15:28:04 GMT
Well, the sound of race car motors is music to some people's ears I guess. Not mine. Seriously yawn making.
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Post by Kimby on Apr 14, 2020 15:52:33 GMT
Yeah, like jet skis (personal watercraft) without the water. Round in circles, fast and noisy, waste of fuel...
Maybe it’s time to start a new thread COVID-19 Necrology?
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Post by onlyMark on Apr 14, 2020 16:25:42 GMT
(Before we get too far off topic, I'll just say that screaming engines do nothing for me and F1 engines are less noisy now than they have been for many years. Even though I may be more of what is known as a petrol head than most, I have no aural enjoyment from the sound of any of the modern day sports cars, Ferrari etc. But a full throated V8 or teeth rattling thump thump from an old single cylinder British motorbike, or a low revved thrum from an inline 6 Gardner diesel engine - point my ears up like Spock.)
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Post by questa on Apr 15, 2020 0:22:49 GMT
When you have all finished slinging mud and showing your ignorance of motor sport... The enormous amount of skill and courage to race F1 far outweighs the noise their engines make. The cars you drive are the result of development done by the engineers and designers who are building, trialling and improving all the time. Cars of the 1960s were heavy death boxes with no crumple zones, side protection or assisted braking. Today these are standard along with seat belts, airbags, led lights and literally more computer controlled than the space craft that did the moon landing. Watching a tight race is thrilling as the cars may be a distance apart but the 2nd one is gaining so many seconds a lap...will he gain enough to take the lead or run out of laps.
Every driver knows he could lose his life at any time.It is an extreme sport but if all you can see and hear is screaming engines, I feel sorry for you.
Mark, A Motoguzzi doing the Isle of Man TT...Yesss!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Apr 15, 2020 6:42:39 GMT
I shed a tear for Tim B-T he co-wrote material for and appeared on a radio comedy show called I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again in the early 70s with John Clease, Graham Garden and Bill Oddie...I can still quote whole sketches from it as I listened to it in my bedroom as a teenager. The BBC released tapes of the show in the late 80s and I introduced my children to the show, they both love it and often we all throw quotes at each other when we are all together. Happy memories.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Apr 15, 2020 6:49:32 GMT
And I agree with Mark...there is something very exciting about the throbbing power of a motorbike. I was only ever on the back...and took spectacular pleasure in removing my crash helmet when we arrived at the pub, youth club etc to allow my long hair to cascade down delusional really... I do watch F1 but I don't know why.
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Post by onlyMark on Apr 15, 2020 7:28:35 GMT
Watching a tight race is thrilling as the cars may be a distance apart but the 2nd one is gaining so many seconds a lap...will he gain enough to take the lead or run out of laps. No. Because he car performs so badly when following another to be able to overtake due to the loss of down force and other air related issues like his engine/brakes will over heat - plus, if he pushes too hard for more than a couple of laps, his tyres will degrade too fast and lose grip. Go over the cliff, as they say. Yes, he'll survive when he has a crash, which is a good thing, that's about it.
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Post by mossie on Apr 15, 2020 9:13:32 GMT
As a motor racing fan since watching the Kabrit Grand Prix in 1952, and no, you will not find that one in any records, I have avidly followed F1 ever since. However i admit it has become far too technical and aerodynamic for its own good. But people like Stirling Moss were the heroes of their day, and faced great odds which todays competitors do not. This perhaps devalues the modern people but doesn't detract from their skill and ability, but reduces the gladiatorial aspect which helps the attraction.
And Cheery, what else did the throbbing power of the motorbike persuaded you to remove at your destination ??
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Post by onlyMark on Apr 15, 2020 9:53:42 GMT
I'm sure we could get reference to his helmet in there as well Mossie.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 15, 2020 13:07:56 GMT
People annoyed by a car dangerously passing them on the road in France still sometimes yell "Step on it, Fangio!"
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Post by questa on Apr 15, 2020 13:11:34 GMT
I am a bit vague on details but Monarco gp pouring rain, Senna in 1st or 2nd GP hung in to win when all the others wanted to stop the race. Adelaide when the second car was just about to cross past the first when he blew a tyre a few metres from the finish blew ,a" flames and smoke" finish . My city adopted Senna. He was everything perfect for his business. A sweet and happy man who could put on his race face and become a killer instinct, precision on wheels machine.
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Post by questa on Apr 15, 2020 13:16:51 GMT
In Oz parlance...I'm going for a fang in the count.ry tomorrow. Where is Tom...he is fanging around with his new chick.
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Post by lagatta on Apr 15, 2020 14:50:46 GMT
An Argentinian friend is from Balcarce, Fangio's hometown in Buenos Aires province (which doesn't include the metropolis). It is in the south of the province, closer to Mar de Plata than BsAs and La Plata. If I'm ordering an espresso at the old Italian bars in my neighbourhood, the patrons know Fangio because he is from a part of Italy many hail from. There is a museum dedicated to Fangio and racing in Balcarce.
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