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Post by lagatta on Aug 2, 2020 14:21:11 GMT
My point here is not to raise the salacious details of the Prince Andrew/Epstein/Maxwell story, but the legal angle. Can a royal actually do hard time for criminal acs, or are they immune?
Many decades ago, the former Edward VIII and the "woman he loved, Wallis Simpson" were simply shuffled off to the colonies, thus averting possible charges of treason, but in our media-centric world, this seems much less possible.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Aug 2, 2020 16:42:56 GMT
No. With privilege comes responsibility. I dont know if the bloke is guilty or not but he should at least be questioned. Initially over here. If there is sufficient evidence that he has broken the law THEN he should be tried in the US.
He's dropped well off the radar atm, to the extent that his daughter has a very quiet marriage without all the bells and whistles of a royal wedding. Andrew and his ex-wife have never been popular here altho he gained a little temporary kudos flying royal navy helicopters in the Falklands war. The pair are seen as willing to do anything for money rather than working for a living. Whether this has any basis in fact or not I don't know, I wouldn't want to condemn them just because I'm not a royalist.
But to answer your question Lagatta...no. Royalty are not immune. The old Spanish king is currently under investigation for something or other atm isn't he?
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Post by lagatta on Aug 2, 2020 18:41:49 GMT
Yes, he is. I was just wondering if either Royal could actually be sent to the slammer. King Carlos does have old age on his side...
I'm not a monarchist either, but I was interested in the constitutional aspect, with respect to criminal law.
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Post by onlyMark on Aug 2, 2020 18:57:26 GMT
The Queen is immune. The rest aren't, but -
"The monarch is immune from arrest in all cases; members of the royal household are immune from arrest in civil proceedings. No arrest can be made "in the monarch's presence", or within the "verges" of a royal palace. When a royal palace is used as a residence (regardless of whether the monarch is actually living there at the time), judicial processes cannot be executed within that palace."
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Post by whatagain on Aug 2, 2020 21:52:21 GMT
Our king was ordered to take a paternity test to determine if he was or not Delphine Boel's father.
He tried to evade, avoid but was obliged to in the end.
But of course, it happened in a civilised country.
Not one where we could end up with BoJo the clown as head of state.
We prefer to have no government at all...
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Post by questa on Aug 3, 2020 1:22:56 GMT
Andrew has had a less than princely history with women. Remember Koo Stark and the position the Queen was put in when Andrew wanted to invite the porn star to join the family for Christmas. His choice of Sarah Ferguson for wife also raised eyebrows in the Court and Colonies. She had what is referred to in polite society as 'a history' yet had the chutzpah to wear white for her wedding.
Now it has become more serious and I think that Randy Andy's 'retirement from active duties' and hiding from the public is a fair indication that he has some activities to answer for. If not criminally involved himself, there will be some unsavory details to be revealed. If he is not guilty legally...let him have his day in Court and clean out all the other sickos.
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Post by lagatta on Aug 3, 2020 1:51:10 GMT
There is a great difference between a fiançée having a history or "past" and the very serious crimes "Randy Andy" is accused of now. Of course the presumption of innocence applies.
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 3, 2020 17:39:57 GMT
Hmmmm, Juan Carlos has just left Spain. Interesting development!
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Post by lagatta on Aug 3, 2020 18:10:50 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 3, 2020 18:15:55 GMT
We should start betting on where he will settle. France is probably no longer appropriate, or any other EU country. What about Mexico?
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