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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 15, 2021 18:10:31 GMT
This topic is long overdue since we spent too much time on Brexit.
I am wondering about the future of Boris Johnson, which does not look brilliant at the moment.
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Post by mossie on Dec 16, 2021 8:12:03 GMT
I have always said that "Boris is a bullshitter", he is also the typical bounder who can bound out of trouble.
He is not the best PM we have had but he is by far the best of the pathetic bunch who sit in our present Parliament, whichever breed they support.
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Post by bjd on Dec 16, 2021 11:49:20 GMT
If Bojo is the best your political system can do, you are in trouble.
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Post by lugg on Dec 16, 2021 19:13:46 GMT
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Post by lugg on Dec 16, 2021 19:22:26 GMT
If Bojo is the best your political system can do, you are in trouble. I agree ..if he was the best we could do, but thankfully he is not. He is a lying, sociopathic, out of control festering sewer pipe of shit. I'm hoping he will land down face first in it.
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Post by bjd on Dec 16, 2021 19:37:34 GMT
He is a lying, sociopathic, out of control festering sewer pipe of shit. I'm hoping he will land down face first in it. You don't like him, I guess?
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Post by lugg on Dec 16, 2021 19:39:27 GMT
You don't like him, I guess?
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 16, 2021 20:49:02 GMT
If Bojo is the best your political system can do, you are in trouble. I agree ..if he was the best we could do, but thankfully he is not. He is a lying, sociopathic, out of control festering sewer pipe of shit. I'm hoping he will land down face first in it. Get off that fence lugg....
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 17, 2021 1:19:52 GMT
Lugg has no idea how much I love her!
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Post by questa on Dec 17, 2021 4:01:43 GMT
I thought that Bixa's invective over Trump was colourful but Lugg has her own style.
GO you good things!
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 17, 2021 5:09:50 GMT
So, North Shropshire has fallen.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 17, 2021 8:06:01 GMT
Inevitable
The Lib Dem leader says it’s a “tipping point” which of course it isn’t. Lib Dems often win mid term elections but there is no sign of them in general elections.
I have no idea what they stand for (bit like the Labour party).
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Post by whatagain on Dec 17, 2021 8:50:21 GMT
I am committing 'out of control festering sewer pipe full of shit' to my brains. This must be the coolest insult i read in a long time.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 17, 2021 16:02:41 GMT
Now that Boris has taken full responsability for this regrettable election, perhaps he can leave Downing Street and look after his new baby.
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Post by casimira on Dec 17, 2021 16:33:13 GMT
Good one Lugg!! I knew you were sharp but acerbic may be a better description.
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Post by lugg on Dec 18, 2021 19:07:55 GMT
Yes mid term elections election results do not, in the main, indicate the results of any forthcoming general election. But this is really a massive warning shot across the bows of the Tory government made by the electorate - North Shrops is similar to my home county ...mainly rural, Brexiteers and long term Tory voters. It has voted for the Tories for nearly 200 years. It is unfortunate it is the CVhristmas break as otherwise Bo Jo may not have lasted the week. I am still hoping he is ditched. BUT the rest of the Tory government ministers in with a chance of PM ( with a few exceptions) are as bad as Bo-Jo.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 18, 2021 19:17:46 GMT
That's what I have been reading, too -- there is no suitable replacement for Boris. I'm quite sure that Theresa May would not want to return (nor would anybody really want her to return), but now I am wondering what has happened to her. Those of us outside of Britain still consider her to have been a better PM than Boris (not much better, though), but that's not saying much (once again from the perspective of any outsider).
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Post by Biddy on Dec 19, 2021 1:12:32 GMT
Yikes as someone raised in Ireland - I will forego commentary on Boris and the Tories.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 19, 2021 20:02:04 GMT
I'll never forgive Doris (can't use his name...we call him Doris in our family) for Brexit...and his reluctance to take action at the start of the pandemiic AND handing out contracts worth squillions to tory chums when UK companies were ready and desperate to help. There were so many small companies happy to turn out scrubs, masks, ventilators etc. Collectively they would have hit targets in a timely manner. But no...pay an idiot chum millions to 'source' cheap tat that can't be used because it DOESN'T WORK...aaaurrgh...
I'm generalising. Of course. UK politics is stuffed. Has been for years. All the parties seem to be focussing on those they see as 'electable personalities' and trying to stick to party principles irrespective of their relevance to the country and electorate...or their needs.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 12, 2022 19:34:12 GMT
Oh, Boris is realy sorry for having a garden party during lockdown even though it was really just a work meeting (for 100 people bringing their own liquor bottles). He is really being mistreated by public opinion.
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Post by casimira on Jan 12, 2022 19:41:28 GMT
More like MISTRUSTED rather than mistreated. Although, on second thought, they both apply.
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Post by lugg on Jan 12, 2022 19:58:16 GMT
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Post by bjd on Jan 12, 2022 20:10:47 GMT
I saw a clip on this evening's news of Bojo "apologizing" in the House of Commons today. He really thought it was a work meeting when he saw all those people in the garden having a drink. When Starmer called him a liar, Johnson didn't even look sorry, he looked like a kid upset that he got caught.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 12, 2022 21:11:49 GMT
Brexit needed to be sorted one way or the other and I was prepared to give him a chance but now it’s time to go.
The Labour opposition don’t do much for me though.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 18, 2022 17:12:29 GMT
Watching Boris Johnson squirm under questioning is endlessly entertaining. I have to admit that British journalists are much more insistant than those in France or the United States (with precious few exceptions).
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Post by casimira on Jan 18, 2022 17:37:41 GMT
Watching Boris Johnson squirm under questioning is endlessly entertaining. I have to admit that British journalists are much more insistant than those in France or the United States (with precious few exceptions). I too admire the British press. They are biased in some ways like all media outlets but, US mainstream media for the most part is controlled by the Democrats (if you could really call them that). They are the ones who control what they can allow Biden to say or ask him too many questions for fear of him tripping all over the place and sticking his foot in his mouth and going off script). He is their puppet.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jan 18, 2022 17:42:47 GMT
Imo Doris should never have been made the leader of the conservative party never mind the PM. It feels like he saw how popular Farage was with the delusional, uninformed and jingoistic twazzocks in both the far right and middle right and realised that he could pretty much get away with saying anything..so long as it was what they wanted to hear. The man is an egomaniac, ambitious and arrogant. He's fooled a lot of good, honest people (even if they ARE tories) At least Cameron was a gentleman and could string a sentence together, if he'd shown a sliver of backbone and campaigned on the Remain side we might not be in this mess.
Rishi Sunak is my prefered candidate to replace Doris. Not that he'll go without a fight. But I still couldn't vote tory.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 18, 2022 17:47:51 GMT
It’s a fine line. Sometimes the journalists can become rude and constantly interrupt so the politicians can’t get much out and they lose the viewers sympathy.
The clever interviewer gives them just enough rope to hang themselves.
Let’s face it, Biden only got in because he wasn’t Trump. He’s the least impressive president that I can recall.
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Post by casimira on Jan 18, 2022 18:05:48 GMT
Spot on Mick.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jan 18, 2022 18:37:50 GMT
Unfortunately, although there are some excellent journalists, there are far more that are just rude...alienating and haranguing rather than probing intelligently. I'm referring in particular to those 'Morning TV' presenters like Kay Burley on sky news, Naga Munchetti and co on the beeb and Susanna Reid on itv. Even the lovely Andrew Marr on Sunday mornings (now sadly he's moved on) was getting pretty annoying. Hopefully Sophie Rayworth, his replacement will prove effective.
It's all very well trying to prevent an interviewee spouting party waffle and trying to blindside the interviewer with negative comments about the opposition, or listing their party's achievements rather than answering a question....but some interviewers just want their victim to say a particular phrase, admit to some mistake and make promises they can't keep and will interrupt constantly.
The beeb has some excellent young political commentators, altho they are undoubtedly leftwing. This doesn't necessarily mean that they support the flagging Labour party, anything but. Three or four of these young journalists put out a daily podcast during brexit which I loved..it was quite irreverent but pretty astute.
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