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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 6, 2022 20:16:56 GMT
Will he have another drinking party on Downing Street tonight?
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 6, 2022 20:19:16 GMT
The writing is on the (very expensive) wall(paper)....
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 6, 2022 20:26:06 GMT
Dead man walking.
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Post by patricklondon on Jun 7, 2022 11:14:01 GMT
From Twitter Some very long faces on supporters of @borisjohnson after poll closed. One PM ally said of Tory MPs: They are a bunch of lying snakes. I don’t trust anything they say.You could not make it up There's an old tale about a new young and enthusiastic MP being shown round the House of Commons by a jaded veteran MP. "So over there is where the enemy sits!" says the youngster. "Oh no - those are your opponents. Your enemies are here, on the same side as you."
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Post by lagatta on Jun 7, 2022 13:04:03 GMT
In Italian, a government cabinet is, of course il gabinetto. However, this is also the term for public toilets...
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Post by fumobici on Jun 7, 2022 14:09:27 GMT
I never see that term used in the papers though. For government. It's rather quaint and old fashioned to use for the WC.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 7, 2022 15:31:03 GMT
Since "cabinet" has the same toilet connotation France, they don't use that term. The government cabinet is just called "the government."
Meanwhile, getting back to British politics, I saw that President Zelinsky of Ukraine heartily congratulated Boris Johnson on winning the vote, because he is a fine ally and friend. I completely understand that because just about every country only cares about the foreign policy of other countries and not at all their domestic politics. Boris Johnson has been exemplary with Ukraine.
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Post by lugg on Jun 7, 2022 18:57:16 GMT
"So over there is where the enemy sits!" says the youngster. "Oh no - those are your opponents. Your enemies are here, on the same side as you." I can only hope that the enemies within do for him. Although as ever part of me wants him to completely wreck the Tory party by staying longer.
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Post by casimira on Jun 7, 2022 19:34:56 GMT
I read something this morning that I found hilarious. It was a synopsis of the Queen's Jubilee accompanied by several photos. There was one with BJ and the caption read "Boris Johnson managed to brush his hair for the event".
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Post by lagatta on Jun 7, 2022 22:34:29 GMT
Gabinetto is more an aged joke than a sign actually used at "public conveniences". As for Her Majesty, while I'm no Monarchist, imagine having to deal with Boris Johnson and Prince Edward on the same day
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 7, 2022 22:57:08 GMT
What's wrong with Prince Edward?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 8, 2022 5:26:19 GMT
Lagatta probably meant Prince Andrew.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 11, 2022 10:34:20 GMT
And now Prince Charles has "accidentally" been heard saying that deporting migrants from Great Britain to Rwanda is "appalling."
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 13, 2022 21:37:56 GMT
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Post by bjd on Jun 14, 2022 6:00:29 GMT
Entitled or what? If they are given £323 a day just for turning up, surely they can afford to pay for their food without taxpayers subsidies?
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 14, 2022 8:19:05 GMT
You can see why we need to get rid of the House of Lords. We do need a 2nd house to question/help keep the House of Commons in line...but a 2nd elected body rather than a bunch of freeloaders..
... the government are refusing to give our school children a decent meal* (and hopital food is truly terrible) there's no way we should be paying to feed these self entitled b*stards.
*some children get free school meals, but the food provided varies in quality from 'decent' to 'I wouldnt feed that to my dog'
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 14, 2022 9:58:30 GMT
Indeed but what would be the criteria for election?
And why does a Bishop automatically qualify? What special qualities do they have beyond belief in a benevolent (or otherwise) old bearded gentleman on a cloud?
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Post by bjd on Jun 14, 2022 10:54:50 GMT
I'm not convinced about the need for a Senate, or whatever you would call a second body. From what I see, senators are often old politicians who are there as a political reward, whether for services rendered or for big donations to the ruling party. I won't even mention the USA where senate representation is the same for states no matter their population and one old fart (Mitch McConnell, I'm looking at you) can hold up laws passed by many more elected reps.
Perhaps just rewriting the rules for election to the House of Commons, the Assemblée Nationale, the House of Representatives or whatever body represents most of the electorate, would improve the system.
In the current discussions about the French elections, several commentators have mentioned that the most popular political figures in France are mayors, many of whom have no political affiliation. The further the politicians get from people, the less contact there is and the less people are interested in them. I suppose it is similar in many other countries.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 14, 2022 17:18:24 GMT
Brilliant and logical overview of elected representatives and how they actually represent and guard the needs of the populace, Bjd!
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 14, 2022 17:33:58 GMT
Just for the record, the French Senate is another cesspool of privilege for old men with not just luxury meals for next to nothing, the corresponding bar but even a barber shop for a pittance. And guess who votes on the prices for these things? The Senate!
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Post by whatagain on Jun 18, 2022 8:03:18 GMT
Boris is now picking fights with EU and EHCR. About unilaterally changing the agreements on Brexit andcabout wanting to pass sss their own laws about out to handle refugees.
It makes sense since he built his approval rating, recognition etc on hetting rid of those bloody incapables and fiving back power to UK.
But it could prove devastating towards the rest of the world, who is not only focused on Boris and who start saying you can't trust UK anymore.
And during this time what does he do to curb inflation and protect purchase power of Brits ?
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Post by bjd on Jun 18, 2022 8:26:02 GMT
It's a way for Boris to distract attention from his scandals and not dealing with purchasing power issues. He is playing to all those Brexit voters who still need a scapegoat for government inability to deal with things.
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Post by mossie on Jun 18, 2022 8:59:50 GMT
I am afraid that the EU and its adjuncts are doing everything possible to do us down. They are so upset that we have left their marvellous institution, not to mention that we had been one of the main props financially, while most do not stump up.
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Post by bjd on Jun 18, 2022 9:33:32 GMT
I thought you would react, Mossie! All the EU wants is for Johnson to keep to the agreements he signed. Just because he is a liar and probably had no intention of keeping his word is not a reason to accuse anyone of "doing down" the UK.
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Post by whatagain on Jun 18, 2022 11:12:06 GMT
Maybe the Brexit had it in itself to bring problems to UK.
UK was supposed to become immensely rich by stopping paying for EU... UK was supposed to solve immigration by leaving EU.
UK signed agreements.
And now says they are not valid and want new agreements. That they can tear later on ? What good is it to sign papers with Bojo ?
What exactly has EU done to 'punish' UK ?
Methinks EU is a good scapegoat.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 18, 2022 11:24:14 GMT
Looks like he ran to Ukraine yesterday to get the affection he can't get closer to home.
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Post by casimira on Jun 18, 2022 16:42:19 GMT
I agree with the comment that BJD made about mayors of cities being more involved and closer to the population they represent. The problem is that although the mayor may have its constituents best interests at heart they have to work with other municipal politicians. I have yet to witness in my time living in NOLA having a mayor who can garner the support he or she needs from the City Council, District Attorney, Police Superintendent and most of all the governor of the state. (An excellent example of this is the cluster f**k that occurred during Hurricane Katrina and it's aftermath. The mayor at that time, Ray Nagin actually managed to get re-elected. (He is currently in federal prison for embezzlement) The governor, Kathleen Blanco got "thrown under the bus" only to be replaced by Bobby Jindal, likely one of the most deplorable governors ever, and that's saying a lot).
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 21, 2022 6:27:13 GMT
While a strike for higher wages is not specifically political, I'm wondering how these news strikes affect the political climate in the UK. Since France is fighting its own political demons at the moment, we are not getting as much information about this as we normally would.
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Post by patricklondon on Jun 21, 2022 11:00:51 GMT
While a strike for higher wages is not specifically political, I'm wondering how these news strikes affect the political climate in the UK. The government is playing full-bore Thatcher Mk.II, in the obvious hope that any animus against the unions will rub off on Labour (there are two key by-elections on Thursday, which would in any case have tested the extent to which BJ has retained or lost support among, in one case, traditional Tory voters in the country and, in the other, the post-industrial "red wall" seats they took from Labour last time). Starmer, meanwhile, is also trying to straddle two horses, the unions and the voters Labour needs to win back from the Tories. He has told his shadow cabinet not to join picket lines, and says the government should have been actively trying to negotiate with both sides to avert the strikes. It's not only about higher wages. The railways have been losing income through the lockdowns; government subsidy is being reduced, and the companies told to cut costs by "modernising" operations (e.g., cutting down on station staff and changing rostering = creating redundancies).
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Post by patricklondon on Jun 24, 2022 6:47:15 GMT
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