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Post by lugg on Jan 10, 2020 18:33:41 GMT
Note: Bjd started this thread today, December 5, 2022. There were quite a few posts about gardening videos in the Gardening Waffle thread. They have been moved here. ~ BixaLooking forward to this new Monty Don series , gardens in America www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000d2gm
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 10, 2020 18:48:11 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 11, 2020 1:40:03 GMT
*cough*
Monty Don travels across America to explore whether there is such thing as an American garden.
Seriously, y'all??!
(Holding this against the BBC2 copywriter, not against you nice Brits here.)
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Post by patricklondon on Jan 11, 2020 8:13:37 GMT
*cough* Monty Don travels across America to explore whether there is such thing as an American garden. Seriously, y'all??! (Holding this against the BBC2 copywriter, not against you nice Brits here.) Clumsy wording, but I think they mean "Is there a specific and distinctive American style/concept of a garden" (he's previously done series on French, Italian and Islamic garden design).
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Post by bjd on Jan 11, 2020 8:21:27 GMT
I would think that an "American" garden is a bit vague. Surely it depends on where in America it is, and I only mean the States here. There is such a variety of climates that what someone does in Arizona has nothing in common with a garden in Seattle, Florida or Massachusetts.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 11, 2020 10:21:31 GMT
Beautifully put Patrick.
And pretty obvious bjd so not quite sure what Monty is about here. We shall see....
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 11, 2020 15:46:02 GMT
It's okay, you guys. You all know that I forgive the British anything because of their gardens.
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Post by lugg on Jan 12, 2020 20:50:08 GMT
Just watched the first episode - huge smile on my face almost throughout ( according to my daughter) Loved, loved, loved it. Give it a go guys - ignore the copywriter and any thoughts about typical... just go with the flow.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 12, 2020 21:18:32 GMT
Spot on Lugg.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 13, 2020 23:09:45 GMT
That is so pretty, Cheery!
I don't know the right place to put this video, but I guess it'll be okay here.
If you've seen pictures of my patio, you'll know that it's long and narrow, with one end covered by an ugly metal carport. It's paved, with a total of four permanent, inadequate brick planters against the walls, plus one longer one fronting the porch. Thus, my goal is always to make it look more like a real garden and less like an extended driveway. Today I began the process of reworking it somewhat, encouraged by a youtube video I found.
Maybe everyone in the UK already knows about this series and maybe they despise it, but I'm always intrigued by design solutions for awkward spaces, in the garden or in the house. I've only watched the one, but you can see in the sidebar that there are many more. I won't be using the £2000 splashed out in this example, or any money, for that matter, but I still find it inspiring ~
NOTE: video below disappeared because the acct. was terminated. It was for the series Garden Rescue, which is now difficult to find on youtube. At any rate, here is a sample of the show, although it is not the video referenced before this edit.
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Post by patricklondon on Jun 14, 2020 6:02:40 GMT
Maybe everyone in the UK already knows about this series and maybe they despise it, but I'm always intrigued by design solutions for awkward spaces, in the garden or in the house. The BBC are currently using re-runs as fillers around their coverage of the government's daily updates on the You-Know-What. The formula may be wearing a bit thin now, and they've mixed ut up a but with an additional designer from tine to time. I do remember one where in effect the garden did look like a long thin driveway. tr-cam.com/video/hfHr0-Sm8Zw/garden-rescue-series-3-episode-23-stowmarket-720p-hdtv.htmlAnother one involved containers on wheels so that they could be moved around to suit.
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Post by casimira on Jun 22, 2020 13:21:16 GMT
I thoroughly enjoyed watching these 2 different designers come together with their individual ideas. One comes away with a sense of how well they were able to fuse the two different cultures into a space that's not awkward which could so very easily have happened. There were moments when I would see something they were about to do and thinking "oh, no!", (e.g. when they started painting the fence black.) Then seeing where they went with it, the moment when I realized what they were doing and how well it worked. Some very ingenious utilization of different techniques. Very inspiring. I do wish though that they had gone with the water feature which to me would have been the ultimate defining element of the overall design. I also think they should have rid the garden of the one red rose plant. Much too glaring and a major distraction for me.
Thanks for posting this Bixa. I will surely find myself in moments of boredom watching other episodes.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 22, 2020 14:45:55 GMT
Not a fan of these programmes I regret to say.
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Post by casimira on Jun 22, 2020 14:50:27 GMT
Any particular reason why Mick if you don't mind my asking?
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 22, 2020 15:38:09 GMT
I also watch those house fixer-upper shows, but it's hard to find some where the homeowners don't have obscenely big budgets or insist on something other than open plan/enormous kitchen/custom island/canister lighting.
Garden Rescue is fun because of the befores & afters, which are always dramatic. And anyone who is already a gardener would be interested in how shapes and textures are used in the space available. There are a few things that give me pause about the presenters, though. First of all, what happened to the old rule of "dig a $10 hole for a $1 plant"? To me it looks as though the barest possible hole is scraped out for whatever shrub or tree is being planted. Also, there seems to be no consideration given to the compass points when locating plants. Yesterday I watched an episode wherein some large, well-grown hanging baskets were moved from one wall of the garden to the opposite wall. The same blithe indifference is often seen in regard to eventual size, particularly in the use of herbs. Little pots of rosemary, chives, & parsley straight from the plant nursery may look cute together all closely planted in a small raised bed, but they are doomed to perform poorly both from a design and a performance standpoint.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 22, 2020 16:22:17 GMT
Bixa has summed it up well but there have been better programmes in the past.
Alan Titchmarsh used to present a really good garden makeover programme a few years back and one of his team was Charlie Dimmock who presents this programme now. In those days she was half the size she is now and just worked on water features. I think this is a step too far for her.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 22, 2020 16:28:33 GMT
I find her personality and delivery pretty irritating. She can come up with some nice ideas, but seems to be unaware that shade is an important garden element. Also, she seems compelled to put some crappy bit of hippy construction, usually in the form of an arch, into every garden.
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Post by casimira on Jun 22, 2020 16:37:38 GMT
I guess that sums that up then. JEEZUMS...
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Post by bjd on Jun 22, 2020 16:50:34 GMT
I actually sat through that whole video. I found it strange that the owners had done nothing with the place in 3 years, other than sticking in some bamboo and sticking a few pots here and there.
The drawing of the Japanese garden was okay, but when finished I think there was too much stuff in there for such a small garden: walls, trees, boulders. The owners will have a hell of a job keeping the plants in manageable sizes. Are you allowed to plant trees so close to the neighbour's yard?
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 5, 2020 11:56:32 GMT
The TV is chock full of cooking programmes but not one gardening programme now.
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Post by breeze on Dec 5, 2020 14:10:00 GMT
Mick, that happened here that all the good gardening shows dried up but the cooking shows increased. I turned to youtube. I absolutely love this Irish gardener, John Lord. Once I discovered him, I went through every video he'd ever done. It kept me busy for days. www.youtube.com/channel/UCc1hdKqCEwZqZYNjKitAlaQ/videosOn youtube I tried Bunny Guinness, Gardening at Douentza, Huw Richards, plus many I can't remember. I can take them or leave them but John Lord is to me irresistible. He's mostly into perennials and goes for the prairie garden look which is not my favorite, but he's so knowledgeable. Worked in German gardens with old-school gardeners. Has a garden center at Ratoath.
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 5, 2020 16:33:10 GMT
It's true that youtube can be a godsend right now. How did you find some of those programs, Breeze? I must not be searching right, since I just keep coming across the same things. John Lord seems as though he could keep any dedicated gardener with a permanent plot going forever, learning and appreciating as gardeners should.
I like the problem-solving before and after shows, although they can be pretty shallow at times. They kind of skate over the fact that they're doing all the work for the homeowners, then leaving them with a yard that could easily turn into an unmaintained mess. I did like Garden Rescue, though, because of its cheerfulness and attempt to understand what clients wanted. I can't take more than two seconds of Monty Don, whose patronizing attitude toward anyone who is not Monty Don is unbearably obnoxious.
The American "gardening" shows I've tried to watch have been, well, unwatchable. I don't like the gimmicks most of them hang on, plus none of them seem to be for limited budgets or space. Worst of all, there is too much loud cheerleading by testosterone-fueled hosts.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 5, 2020 17:03:14 GMT
Bixa, I would expect it's been mentioned somewhere but are you aware of two series from many years ago with a wonderful old man called Harry Dodson - The Victorian Kitchen Garden and The Victorian Flower Garden.
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 5, 2020 17:51:40 GMT
Thanks for those suggestions, Mark. I just looked them up and there are pretty good resolution episodes of both series on youtube. I will be watching them, but I think of them more as coming under the designation of history shows (which I love), rather than gardening shows.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 5, 2020 18:13:51 GMT
Monty Don is not my favourite either and frankly his garden is a wilderness.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 30, 2021 20:44:33 GMT
Do any if you guys get gardening programmes with Monty Don?
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 30, 2021 21:01:17 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 30, 2021 23:39:09 GMT
Having just read through all those links, I know that there are people who like him. I am not one of them. I like this youtube channel -- great title: The Middle-Sized Garden, but no bells & whistles. It's all about information, although the presenter shows excellent photos and videos to illustrate each episode. www.youtube.com/channel/UC9l0mKCZRMJCZ-UFwDgrUjw
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 1, 2021 19:33:12 GMT
I love Monty. As Mick knows. He's an enthusiastic amateur. I've met him at GW Live and he was really kind. Like his writing too.
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Post by bjd on Mar 21, 2022 6:38:51 GMT
This business about having an expensive professional design a garden is why I enjoy the videos I mentioned just above and linked to earlier. She does her own flower beds, digs the plants in, can talk about them all. Of course, she seems to have a few sponsors because they seem to come from the same nursery, but also plants from seed, perennial division, etc.
She also does videos of before/after sent in by those who enjoy her video and that too is interesting, especially because she emphasizes how long it actually takes to get things organized and growing -- it's not instant like on a TV show.
This is the video that got me started:
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