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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 11:01:51 GMT
I am so enamored of this plant family. Most are vines with a couple exceptions and all to my knowledge are fragrant. I have quite a few different ones as they do so well here and can transform the most mundane fence or pole into a wall or post of glory. They remain attractive even when not in bloom. The true jasmines (there are a couple impostors) are members of the olive family,Oleaceae. Known for their fragrance,frequently star-shaped flowers,they originate in many parts of the world and have been cultivated in gardens for centuries. One of my favorite garden references (Pizzetti,Cocker) considers it "incomprehensible" that a garden could be without a representative of this plant. Here is a sampling of my favorites.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 11:21:24 GMT
Having some technical problems,will return on this.Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 14:16:35 GMT
Jasminium officinale,Common White Jasmine,origin Iran. Fast growing to 40 feet. Very fragrant clusters of white flowers early Spring through very early Summer. Mine is in full bud draped around my balcony
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 4, 2009 14:56:01 GMT
I have that jasmine, started from a cutting from a neighbor's plant. This is a prolific grower, so if someone offers to share, ask for several cuttings for more chance of success. Mine is trained up the concrete column of the porch, eventually to make swags across the eaves and filter the afternoon sun.
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Post by Jazz on Apr 4, 2009 15:01:10 GMT
The jasmine is beautiful. I've just realized that I've never had one and this will be the year. Your photo seems to be FORBIDDEN but here are a few, I think I'll get one like the jasmine in the right of the middle photo, with the foliage trained to grow in a circle.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 4, 2009 16:34:21 GMT
I, too, must buy a jasmine.
Previous to re-designing my garden I always had a jasmine growing up a wall but it rarely bore flowers. I wonder why this was? I eventually hacked it down because it was winding its way upwards around the soil pipe from an upstairs lavatory and I knew, in time, it would force it away from the wall and I'd be in for a lot of expense.
Now I see that this tenacious climber is once more making an appearance from roots that have spread underground; so I will let it live and I'll try and train it in a different direction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 12:09:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 12:26:14 GMT
The jasmine in the photo above(if it isn't "forbidden",I can't tell as I can see it) is Jasminium sambac,Arabian Jasmine,cultivar 'Grand Duke of Tuscany', one of the few woody,none vining jasmines. Rather unremarkable until in bloom,prostrate and sometimes a bit lanky. The blooms are small cauliflower like in shape and pack some of the most intense perfume imaginable. I have put the small blooms in matchboxes and transported them to N.Y. for my mother who delights in opening the matchbox and taking a whiff of exotica she can transport herself off with to wherever she wants to go... There's another cultivar 'Maid of Orleans' a bit more graceful in growth habit but the bloom is single and not nearly as intense in fragrance. Funny,it's almost as though one's a male(Grand Duke),the other female(Maid of). Considered commonplace in old New Orleans gardens dating back to 1800's.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 6, 2009 13:23:56 GMT
Here is some Indian jasmine that I photographed at Mysore market. It has an overpowering smell and makes me feel a little nauseous. A lot of Indian women wear it woven into their plaits. . Casimira...do you think the jasmine is similar to the picture you posted?
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Post by missalaska on Apr 6, 2009 16:31:06 GMT
We have 2 different jasmines out front - one took a heafty pruning from my f-i-l know it all gardener and well this year was a little compromised. The other one is doing well.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 6, 2009 18:05:55 GMT
Miss A...please post a picture.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 4:18:32 GMT
There are 200 species of jasmine. No way of telling from that photo what species. As for the odor,that many thousands of blooms is bound to be overwhelming.That's an olfactory overload.The essential oil of jasmine is one of the most expensive. It's used in so many perfumes.Jasmine tea is quite delicious,very subtle.
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Post by missalaska on Apr 7, 2009 10:11:19 GMT
They are not in flower at the mo!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2009 23:53:25 GMT
Currently in bloom all over the city,on utility poles,abandoned houses,stairways,fences...
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Post by spindrift on Apr 23, 2009 8:17:53 GMT
Very beautiful.
Can you tell me why most jasmines around my part of the world have insignificant flowers or none at all. That's why I haven't planted one. Are there some species that flower more than others?
Before I paved my garden I had a rampant jasmine climbing up my house walls and wrapping itself around the downpipes. It never flowered and I ran the risk of it breaking the pipes. I chopped it down eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 15:11:47 GMT
I have not known this to happen with jasmines. Perhaps a sunlight issue which I'm sure you wold have figured out. Overfertilization sometimes causes no blooms,too much nitrogen. I would check with your local nurseryman on this.I think some jasmines may take a couple of years to come into their own.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 23, 2009 20:24:47 GMT
This was an old jasmine. I don't think it was a sunlight problem. My neighbour has a jasmine over his shed - also with few or no flowers. Perhaps it might be the Ph of the soil?
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Post by spindrift on Jul 3, 2009 10:38:23 GMT
Now that it's July the neighbour's jasmine has some flowers on it.
Regarding my query about why our jasmines didn't produce flowers, perhaps it's because we trimmed them back at the wrong time of the year, possibly cutting off the buds? Seems likely.
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Post by bjd on Jul 3, 2009 11:14:17 GMT
If they grow so well in Louisiana or India, perhaps it's a question of heat, Spindrift? Even here, where it's much warmer, gardens don't have much jasmin, except for some yellow one called winter jasmin. Maybe it's because our winters are too cold for it?
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Post by spindrift on Jul 3, 2009 14:21:55 GMT
bjd - maybe you're right. Not enough heat and inconsistent pruning.....
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