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Jun 23, 2016 9:14:06 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 23, 2016 9:14:06 GMT
I visited Europe last month and one of the cities I went to was Rome. Ever since I visited it for the first time seven years ago, I absolutely loved it and it was amazing to be back. I spent about five nights there which is really inadequate but I think I used my time well. So let's begin. Just arrived, checked-in at my hotel and out immediately, hoping to visit some of the churches before they close for the evening. Here is around my hotel in Prati, near the Vatican City. Passed this road called Via della Conciliazione, built by Mussolini, as a grand entry to St Peter's Basilica. This is Castel Sant'Angelo, serving as Hadrian's tomb. It was built in the 2nd century. On the bridge crossing the Tiber. Now in the Centro Storico, one of the city's most beautiful areas, brimming with churches, pretty streets and squares. Here is Chiesa Nuova (New Church), built in the 16th century, during the Counter-Reformation. Like many other churches in Rome, this one is a stunner, with beautiful art. Visiting churches is a great way to enjoy some of the city's artistic and architectural masterpieces for free. I don't have great pictures of this church - took me a while to take better shots- but will show more of other churches! Just down the road is Basilica San Andrea della Valle. Walking around Rome is a pleasure, particularly along small lanes which lead to large squares. The warren of tiny lanes does make navigation a challenge, though, but getting lost in Rome is never a mistake.
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Jun 23, 2016 12:37:30 GMT
Post by htmb on Jun 23, 2016 12:37:30 GMT
Nice pictures and a good start, Ansh. It's good to see you online. Looking forward to more.
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Jun 23, 2016 17:00:13 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 23, 2016 17:00:13 GMT
Are you travelliing on your own now?
Of course the work freeing up vistas for the Vatican, the Forum and other landmarks meant destroying many typical old Roman neighbourhoods, but Mussolini was scarcely alone in that sort of disregard...
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Jun 23, 2016 19:01:13 GMT
Post by fumobici on Jun 23, 2016 19:01:13 GMT
I love Rome and am/have been regretting not having been there in a while. I definitely look forward to more of this report.
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Jun 23, 2016 21:04:31 GMT
Post by mossie on Jun 23, 2016 21:04:31 GMT
They certainly know hoe to decorate their churches.
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Jun 24, 2016 2:42:16 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 24, 2016 2:42:16 GMT
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Jun 24, 2016 7:18:53 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 24, 2016 7:18:53 GMT
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Jun 24, 2016 7:32:18 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 24, 2016 7:32:18 GMT
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Jun 24, 2016 8:22:23 GMT
Post by htmb on Jun 24, 2016 8:22:23 GMT
It was so smart of you to visit St. Peter's early. How wonderful to have it mostly to yourself!
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Jun 24, 2016 19:48:17 GMT
Post by fumobici on Jun 24, 2016 19:48:17 GMT
Well, that and the first morning light made for some very sweetly dramatic photos. Excellent so far.
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Jun 25, 2016 3:32:36 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 25, 2016 3:32:36 GMT
It was now time to go to the Vatican Museum. Just to avoid art overload, I'll post only a few pictures of the interior. This is the museum's extensive classical statuary collection. And some views of the city. Detail of one ceiling. One of the beautiful maps in the Gallery of Maps. The way leads into some magnificent rooms, such as this one, home to the famous fresco The School of Athens, by Raphael. The Vatican Museums culminate at the Sistine Chapel, which is home to some of the most famous artworks produced ever - The Creation of Adam and The Last Judgement both by Michelangelo. Just entering is a real wow-factor moment. Photography is not allowed and officials use a microphone to yell at people caught taking photos. It may be true that sometimes seeing something in real life is not much too different from seeing a picture of it, but in my opinion, this does not apply to the Sistine Chapel - I may have seen countless pictures but none of them prepared me for seeing it in real. It was back to the center now. Arriving at one of ancient Rome's most remarkable buildings, and the best preserved of the lot, the Pantheon. Built in the 2nd century AD as a temple, it was converted to a church in the 6th century and has been used as one ever since. Its dome is an amazing feat of ancient Roman engineering. There are no lights in the Pantheon- all the light flows through this oculus. Any rain which comes in drains through some tiny holes on the floor. This is the square in front of the Pantheon, which bustles with tourists throughout the day.
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Jun 25, 2016 4:37:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 4:37:47 GMT
This is a really great set of pictures, Ansh, and it is also obvious that this time you were able to go and explore everything that interested you instead of being in the family structure of compromise and schedule keeping.
It also makes me want to kick myself for not having been back to Rome in more than 20 years when I used to go there 2 or 3 times a year thanks to the fact that the airline I worked for had two flights a week that stopped in Rome and I could go without paying. Back in those days, I also fully explored the city in the dead of night because the flight back to Paris was at 6 a.m. so there was no point in going to a hotel the last night. Standing in front of the Castel St. Angelo or the Colosseum or the Pantheon with only a few prowling cats was extraordinary.
I particularly appreciated your photos of the Piazza Navona where I often relaxed with friends to have a drink at one of the outdoor cafés at sunset.
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Jun 25, 2016 6:30:13 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 25, 2016 6:30:13 GMT
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Jun 25, 2016 6:58:22 GMT
Post by mossie on Jun 25, 2016 6:58:22 GMT
Marvellous church interiors, so OTT, yet so decorative.
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Jun 25, 2016 12:12:37 GMT
Post by htmb on Jun 25, 2016 12:12:37 GMT
I had no idea the Pantheon was open at the top. Really nice pictures, Ansh. I'm especially enjoying your photos of the twisty little streets.
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Jun 26, 2016 6:46:21 GMT
Post by bixaorellana on Jun 26, 2016 6:46:21 GMT
Gorgeous, Ansh! You really take some very fine pictures and you know how much I admire your way of organizing threads. I'll be honest here & tell you I haven't given this thread all the attention it needs yet, as I'm rushing around. Rest assured that I have looked and admired, though, and will be back to give it the proper due.
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Jun 26, 2016 7:19:30 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 26, 2016 7:19:30 GMT
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Jun 26, 2016 7:37:06 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 26, 2016 7:37:06 GMT
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Jun 26, 2016 9:26:16 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 26, 2016 9:26:16 GMT
Yes, the touristy parts of Rome were very crowded 30 years ago as well. But there are areas nearby where one sees nary a tourist. It isn't like Florence or Venice, smaller cities, easily ovverrun by them. I was staying in Gianicolo when I was there, above Trastevere. Plenty of tourists in Trastevere but also plenty of Romans out for a meal at restaurants (some were cheap and simple, at least back then). Gianicolo is more residential. Here is a site on markets in Rome (it is also in English, but I haven't looked at the English vesion - sometimes such sites are in very strange English): mercatidiroma.comI remember tho old market at Piazza Vittorio/Esquilino. It seems to have moved a bit but is in the same neighbourhood, near Termini, the main railway station. It is a very cosmopolitan market, and I remember it when Roms was just starting to get significant "extracomunitario" immigration: mercatidiroma.com/nuovo-mercato-esquilino-ex-piazza-vittorio/esquilinoOf course, whatever the city or neighbourhood, one has to be wary of pickpockets as markets.
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Jun 26, 2016 10:50:06 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 26, 2016 10:50:06 GMT
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Jun 26, 2016 15:39:20 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 26, 2016 15:39:20 GMT
Yes, Rome remains fairly backward in terms of public transport, and hence is clogged with cars and trucks. In one of your pictures there is a very old tram; I believe there are some more modern ones but not nearly enough. romemap360.com/rome-tram-map#.V2_zvq5jdFUen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_RomeAs for the metro system, it is the victim of corruption and ineffective planning, but also of the ancient structures that are everywhere underground: often building is halted by archaeological digs. And of course Rome is behind several other Italian cities and towns for cycling provision; there are bicycle lanes along the Tevere, but much remains to be done, in a city with a climate where year-round cycling would be easy. For all of this, I love Rome, and miss my friends there. If I go back, once again I'll stay outside the historic "microcentre".
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Jun 27, 2016 4:11:04 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 27, 2016 4:11:04 GMT
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Jun 27, 2016 14:58:52 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 27, 2016 14:58:52 GMT
I really like the moody rainy photos. I did wonder about rain when in the Pantheon, as while Rome is much warmer and drier than London, Berlin or Amsterdam, or even the major northern Italian cities, when it does rain in the Mediterranean, the rain can be a downpour. I walked everywhere in central Rome, also to San Lorenzo where the largest university is located, and to the area where the big multicultural market is located behind Termini railway station. But while I was doing university research, I didn't have the same time constraints as someone working full time in a shop or office - especially since many libraries had very short hours for the public. The worst it the Vatican Library (which I wasn't using, but I know a researcher who spent at least a year there). Things have changed so much with the Internet. It did exist 30 years ago, but was in its infancy. Largo Argentina is not named for the South American country with a huge Italian populaton (including Messi and Bergoglio). It has long been known for its stray cat colony, long fed by pensioners, but nowadays there is a centre caring for them and doing systemic spay and neuter, reducing the huge overpopulation of little felines. www.romancats.com/torreargentina/en/introduction.phpI saw that the cafeteria - tavola calda there where I'd stop for a small meal if hungry (the bus terminus for the bus up the slopes to Gianicolo is there) is still in business: www.reidsitaly.com/destinations/lazio/rome/dining/il_delfino.html www.ildelfinoroma.it/
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Jun 28, 2016 4:24:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 4:24:12 GMT
Kerouac, were the crowds very bad 20 years ago? They were phenomenal at some of the sights during my visit... and not much better when I was there around Easter 2009. 20 years ago, I didn't consider the crowds bad at all. Obviously places like the Colosseum or the Vatican Museum were "crowded" but there was no need to buy tickets in advance (or even the possibility of doing so). And there were hundreds of calm streets where I enjoyed walking. I usually stayed near Termini, from which most of the bus lines started, so I became very proficient in using the bus system which actually seemed very efficient to me. I really need to return to discover how things have changed.
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Jun 28, 2016 14:36:28 GMT
Post by mossie on Jun 28, 2016 14:36:28 GMT
I love the Hand of Truth, pity we could not have tested our politicians during the last few weeks
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Jun 28, 2016 15:50:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 15:50:53 GMT
I should add that one thing that appears to have changed since my last trip to Rome is that the residential buildings now appear to be cleaner and in better condition. There used to be a genteel rundown feel to most of the city, which was excellent for tourists but perhaps not nearly as nice for the residents.
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Jun 28, 2016 16:16:06 GMT
Post by anshjain97 on Jun 28, 2016 16:16:06 GMT
Good to know, thanks Kerouac. Yes, the run-down look of Rome is absolutely beautiful but locals may not feel exactly the same way. Lagatta- yep, I did indeed face some torrential rain- had to put newspaper in my wallet for 2 days to dry it somewhat! The arch: The Forum was Rome's center of commerce and public life, where the citizens shopped and met, where senators discussed weighty political matters and where emperors ordered the construction of victory arches, columns etc. The Forum is a vast archaeological site, and gives a scale of Rome's imperial power. This fountain originally dates from the 6th cent BC Ruin of a Byzantine church, Santa Maria Antiqua. Views over the forum. Arch of Septimius Severus. The Rostra, the platform from where orators addressed the public. The Curia, ancient Rome's Senate House.
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Jun 28, 2016 19:40:21 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jun 28, 2016 19:40:21 GMT
Trajan's Market is worth a look as well.
I remember seeing Rome for the first time (arriving from Paris), I was a bit disappointed at first because it seemed so grimy.
But I also remember finding Montréal very grimy and grey after returning via Paris after a long stay in Perugia (which isn't at all grimy). Without the excuse of being ancient. Last summer I saw a street exhibit about locations in Plateau Mont-Royal (where I lived back then, and which is just south of the district where I have lived for a long time) and indeed it looked sad and forlorn, with little greenery. But unfortunately gentrification has pushed many people out, as is the case in a lot of cities.
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Jun 28, 2016 21:46:33 GMT
Post by fumobici on Jun 28, 2016 21:46:33 GMT
You've really made an excellent exploration of the city! Just like Rome itself, there's so much to see here. I particularly love the early morning light at Vatican City. I can *smell* the place looking at these nice photos. Hope you've got more, I'm gobbling it up.
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Jun 28, 2016 22:02:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 22:02:08 GMT
My first trip to Rome was in 1971 and I remember sending a postcard to my parents saying that Rome had 5 times more things to see as Paris. Mind you, I didn't say it was 5 times "nicer" but I was boggled by all of the amazing monuments on just about every corner. I had been to Paris since childhood, and it seemed like a modern cosmopolitan city to me, but Rome absolutely oozed Roman history. The Forum was the place that impressed me the most, even though I very much recall that it was a very hot day when I went there. But even though it was summer, back in those days, I had the entire place to myself, which is something that I still appreciate when I am visiting a major site anywhere.
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