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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 15, 2019 6:52:18 GMT
New Zealand is about the last place in the world where people would expect a terrorist attack, much less one that killed more than 40 people.
The planet has become totally unpredictable and Middle Earth will never be the same. |
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2019 7:01:35 GMT
Just this moment read the horrible news. I had the same thought about New Zealand as a place something so ugly would not happen. Sickening and sad.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 15, 2019 7:37:55 GMT
Awful. So unexpected too. Heard it on the radio this morning.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 15, 2019 10:54:22 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Mar 15, 2019 12:03:38 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2019 15:41:09 GMT
The psychotic creep wasn't only "inspired" by France. He also hailed Trump as "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose". And this murderer already has a highly placed apologist: Australian senator Fraser Anning published a statement ... "The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place," ...
"The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism. And just because the followers of this savage belief were not the killers in this instance, does not make them blameless." source of both quotes |
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 15, 2019 17:30:23 GMT
The NZ PM's news conference was quite stirring given in a clear, measured voice. Respect.
..."It is clear that this can only be described as a terrorist attack.
From what we know, it does appear to have been well planned. Two explosive devices attached to suspects' vehicles have now been found and they have been disarmed.
There are currently four individuals who have been apprehended but three are connected to this attack who are currently in custody, one of which has publicly stated that they were Australian born.
These are people who I would describe as having extremist views that have absolutely no place in New Zealand and, in fact, have no place in the world.
While we do not have any reason to believe at this stage that there are any other suspects, we are not assuming that, at this stage. The joint intelligence group has been deployed and police are putting all of their resources into this situation.
The defense force are currently transporting additional police staff to the region.
Our national security threat level has been lifted from low, to high. This, I want to assure people, is to ensure that all our agencies are responding in the most appropriate way. That includes at our borders.
Many of you would have seen that Air New Zealand has canceled all turbo prop flights out of Christchurch tonight and will review the situation in the morning. Jet services both domestically and internationally are continuing to operate.
I say again, there is heightened security; that is, of course, so we can assure people of their safety, and the police are working hard to ensure that people are able to move around their city safely.
I have spoken this evening to the mayor of Christchurch and I intend to speak this evening to the imam, but I also want to send a message to those directly affected.
In fact, I am sure right now New Zealand would like me to share a message on their behalf, too.
Our thoughts and our prayers are with those who have been impacted today. Christchurch was the home of these victims. For many, this may not have been the place they were born. In fact, for many, New Zealand was their choice.
The place they actively came to, and committed themselves to. The place they were raising their families, where they were part of communities who they loved and who loved them. It was a place that many came to for its safety. A place where they were free to practice their culture and their religion.
For those of you who are watching at home tonight, and questioning how this could have happened here, we -- New Zealand -- we were not a target because we are a safe harbor for those who hate. We were not chosen for this act of violence because we condone racism, because we are an enclave for extremism. We were chosen for the very fact that we are none of these things. Because we represent diversity, kindness, compassion, a home for those who share our values, refuge for those who need it. And those values, I can assure you, will not, and cannot, be shaken by this attack.
We are a proud nation of more than 200 ethnicities, 160 languages. And amongst that diversity we share common values. And the one that we place the currency on right now -- and tonight -- is our compassion and support for the community of those directly affected by this tragedy.
And secondly, the strongest possible condemnation of the ideology of the people who did this.
You may have chosen us -- but we utterly reject and condemn you."...
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Post by whatagain on Mar 15, 2019 17:59:00 GMT
How can this Australian sob politician dare say such enormities.
The world has become a strange place.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 15, 2019 19:08:27 GMT
We cling to our anti-censorship views don't we? We are taught tolerance of others' views, which is good isn't it? The decision made by some news fb sites to embed video of the attacks is questionable to say the least. Freedom of the press only works if they take a responsible attitude and don't abuse the privilege.
To realise just how stupid, extreme nonsense can be shared across the world by people in authority just makes me furious. Our leaders should be the crême de la crême of our society, why arent they? Because I certainly didnt vote for the gaggle of numpties currently in charge.
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Post by lagatta on Mar 15, 2019 22:58:23 GMT
Mr Anning doesn't know much about the history of Christianity, does he? The 30 years' war, the Inquisition... The Abrahamic monotheisms have far more similarities than differences, in that respect among others. The reasons there is less of that now in parts of the Christian branch have more to do with the Enlightenment and the French Revolution than anything to do with the tenets of that specific monotheistic faith.
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 16, 2019 20:35:13 GMT
I wonder
If the Archbishop of Canterbury and Chief Rabbi sent their condolences.
They might have done but I haven’t seen a report.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 17, 2019 19:14:37 GMT
All of the European news reports have given more publicity to the New Zealand superstore Gun City than the establishment ever could have hoped for. I'm just glad that the place is out of reach of most people on the planet.
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Post by questa on Mar 18, 2019 14:08:35 GMT
How can this Australian sob politician dare say such enormities. The world has become a strange place. Anning is despicable. Got into parliament with only 19 votes as a member of looney right party. First day he left that party and joined another even loonier. They kicked him out as his speeches were too much even for them. Chose to sit as Independent knowing he'd be voted out and seizing every chance to spew his hatred on everyone. 2 days ago a 17 yr old kid hit him on the back of the head with an egg. Anning gave the kid 2 heavy blows to the torso and his thugs held the kid down nearly choking him. The police will probably charge all of them. Meanwhile the call for Anning to be expelled from parliament has grown. A petition now has well over a million signatures, schoolkids are walking out of school at lunchtime and meeting up in nearby parks to express unity with the Muslim kids. Same things happening in Oz I can see why Jacinda Adern is so loved by her people. Did you see the pic of her embracing a Muslim lady, Jacinda wore a black hejab and covered up clothing, and for a few minutes the PM was a grieving mother as well. |
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 18, 2019 14:31:13 GMT
Indeed she was very impressive and genuine.
I can't see Theresa May doing that...
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 18, 2019 18:35:30 GMT
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Post by patricklondon on Mar 19, 2019 5:40:49 GMT
Indeed she was very impressive and genuine. I can't see Theresa May doing that... It's something that takes careful thinking about. There was a time when Margaret Thatcher was thought to be too keen on being photographed visiting people in hospitals who'd been injured in various headline incidents - to the point where you could buy a badge proclaiming that you didn't want to be visited by her. Another factor can be that the necessary security takes public servants away from the job in hand. But this is, in context, so unprecedented that there are no rules. |
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Post by questa on Mar 19, 2019 7:28:47 GMT
Have you heard how the people refer to her as "Jacinda", not PM or formal names. As a young mother herself, the embraces and wordless touching of the women whose children had been shot was not for the cameras. Thatcher's ward rounds were staged and although kind, she never forgot where the cameras were.
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Post by jacobcart on Feb 12, 2023 19:19:21 GMT
The decision made by some news fb sites to embed video of the attacks is questionable to say the least. Freedom of the press only works if they take a responsible attitude and don't abuse the privilege.
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