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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 21, 2023 15:33:53 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Sept 21, 2023 15:53:20 GMT
Let me summarise : she is a facist bitch but a political beast extremely intelligent and who controls herself and her image to appear like an acceptable person.
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Post by kerouac2 on Sept 21, 2023 15:56:52 GMT
Just like Marine Le Pen in France, when she is faced with a real world situation, she finds that she has to submit no matter what rhetoric she has spouted in the past.
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Post by whatagain on Sept 21, 2023 16:27:36 GMT
Marine is also a mean butch but less intelligent less in control even if she starts to understand and thus less successful. But still dangerous.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 21, 2023 23:51:29 GMT
Perfect summation in reply #1!
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 21, 2023 23:53:07 GMT
I figured opening a thread on this person would be worthwhile, as surely there will be more to add later. Let's just hope it doesn't have to run as long as the Berlusconi thread.
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Post by htmb on Sept 22, 2023 3:13:59 GMT
Let me summarise : she is a facist bitch but a political beast extremely intelligent and who controls herself and her image to appear like an acceptable person. Perfect description, though maybe too kind.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2023 0:31:02 GMT
I realize that the title of this thread does not lend itself to the link I'm sharing. Nevertheless, I feel this obituary contains such an interesting overview and explanation of some 20th and 21st century Italian political history that it warrants inclusion here. If people can't get past the paywall, I'll be happy to copy & paste the article here because I'm angry about NYTimes letting me have "gift" articles that no one is allowed to read. Giorgio Napolitano, Italian Post-Communist Pillar, Dies at 98He served for 38 years in Parliament and, after being elected president at a critical moment in Italy’s fortunes, helped stabilize the country.
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2023 0:44:16 GMT
Almost worked then went to a blank screen for me, but that might be due to my ad blocker blocking pop ups.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2023 0:49:53 GMT
Just sent it to you via email, Htmb.
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2023 0:51:02 GMT
Much appreciated!
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2023 1:12:08 GMT
Just sent it to you via email, Htmb. A very interesting and worthwhile read. Shows me how little I really know about the history of the Italian government. Thanks for passing on the article, Bixa.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2023 1:22:27 GMT
You're very welcome -- and I felt the same about how little I know about the history of the Italian government.
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2023 1:37:44 GMT
I’m guessing Napolitano is a very common last name in Italy, but I have at least five paternal dna cousins with the name. We are all tied to the Naples area. I know little about that side of my family, so have been unable to make the connection. Who knows. Maybe I’m one of Giorgio’s distant cousins. Better him than some of the other Italian relatives to whom I’m distantly connected.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2023 4:07:02 GMT
I believe that is Anne Bancroft's real last name. A friend of mine went to high school with her & her sister.
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