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Post by gyro on May 13, 2009 19:12:07 GMT
Haha, this is brilliant, although it'll probably be stopped quite soon :
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British pub finds smoking ban loophole:
The landlady of a British pub has exploited a loophole in the country's smoking ban by opening a "smoking research centre" where drinkers can light up legally, reports said Wednesday.
Locals at the Cutting Edge pub in Barnsley, northern England, must fill in a questionnaire on their smoking habits to satisfy legal requirements before sitting down for a drink and a cigarette in the centre.
England and Wales introduced a ban on smoking in enclosed public places in 2007, contributing to tumbling beer sales which have forced over 2,000 pubs to close in the last year, according to the British Beer And Pub Association.
The Cutting Edge's landlady Kerry Fenton opened the centre, which is a separate room in her pub, five days ago.
"It's given business a shot in the arm and it's all in the name of research, legal and above board," she told the Sun newspaper. "I'm a non-smoker but I believe in the freedom of the individual."
The loophole in the law was discovered by pub regular James Martin, a 40-year-old printer. The local council told the paper it intended to enforce the smoking ban at the pub.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2009 19:34:15 GMT
The Canton of Geneva loophole required completely new legislation to close it.
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Post by gyro on May 14, 2009 8:44:18 GMT
I don't know what that is, but I'm pretty positive they won't be smoking in the boozer in Barnsley in the very near future ....
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Post by BigIain on May 14, 2009 9:33:00 GMT
smokers can be so pathetic sometimes. Because they are so proud of their small victory they need to publicise how clever they are. I am guessing that the loophole closes pretty darned quickly! Best thing that I ever did was to give up ciggies.
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Post by gyro on May 14, 2009 9:44:51 GMT
Good for you. What's the view like from that moral highground of yours ?
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Post by gyro on May 14, 2009 9:50:46 GMT
The item is from a Yahoo News thingy. I can't see anywhere where it says the pub or customers approached them to 'break' the story, or if other non-related jounro's found out about it. So, how do you know it was the people involved that actively publicised it ?
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Post by bixaorellana on May 14, 2009 13:21:29 GMT
Perhaps it was the cloud of smoke over the pub as the little group of smokers furtively enjoyed their gaspers?
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Post by gyro on May 14, 2009 18:58:13 GMT
Perhaps. You can't beat clandestine enjoyment.
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Post by BigIain on May 15, 2009 15:16:23 GMT
"The Cutting Edge's landlady Kerry Fenton opened the centre, which is a separate room in her pub, five days ago.
"It's given business a shot in the arm and it's all in the name of research, legal and above board," she told the Sun newspaper. "I'm a non-smoker but I believe in the freedom of the individual."
The loophole in the law was discovered by pub regular James Martin, a 40-year-old printer. The local council told the paper it intended to enforce the smoking ban at the pub. "
They are not exactly shy and retiring about it... and The Sun is not exactly famous for deep investigative journalism. Yes, I presume that they have gone for self-promotion. Cheap publicity so typical of the average Sun Reader who will say well done. I still say that they have F**ked it up for themselves. Its merely my opinion.
A famous man once suggested to me that discussion boards are there to encourage discussion.
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Post by BigIain on May 15, 2009 15:20:24 GMT
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Post by gyro on May 15, 2009 19:02:40 GMT
Nice fence; so glad you're not daring to sit on it !
Nowt worse than a born again non-smoker .......
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Post by bixaorellana on May 15, 2009 20:39:01 GMT
I think of myself as a smoker who does not smoke. That's because even though I do not light up, I want a cigarette almost every moment of my miserable existence. Further, because smoking is such a pleasurable adjunct to drinking, I don't see why pubs and bars can't have separate smoking rooms.
I am very glad I was able to quit smoking, but it's not easy and I can't look down on anyone who still indulges. (I can envy them, however.) I do appreciate being able to go into restaurants, waiting rooms, etc. that do not reek of smoke. Still, as long as smoking tobacco continues to be legal, smokers really should not completely be treated as pariahs.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 21:07:03 GMT
I know very few former smokers who regret having quit -- most of them seem amazed that non smokers were able to ever put up with the stink, because they become incredibly sensitive to tobacco smells and seem totally repulsed.
One thing that amazes me is that the less smoke there is, the more you smell it. In the old days in the metro, people would smoke on the platform and it rarely bothered me. Now I can smell the faintest wift of smoke, even if it is at the complete opposite end of the station, 300 meters away.
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Post by hwinpp on May 16, 2009 1:47:42 GMT
In Germany they walled off smaller areas of a pub and renamed it a private club. On my last visit there I was surprised to see the level of smoking hasn't come down that much.
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Post by BigIain on May 16, 2009 12:18:25 GMT
the outside rules are not so bad in France, Germany etc, because the weather is better than the UK
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Post by gyro on May 16, 2009 19:19:32 GMT
Oh god, Iain, don't mention the weather. They LOVE talking about that over here ....
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