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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 18:19:37 GMT
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Post by auntieannie on Jul 10, 2009 19:26:16 GMT
yep, the natural predators of the lobsters and other shrimps have been decimated by over-fishing. So we get more crustaceans that used to be rare.
What will we eat once we have decimated the lobster population?
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Post by bazfaz on Jul 10, 2009 20:42:42 GMT
I believe the reason the Maine lobsters have been so well sustained is that the fishermen took control of the beds. They knew that if they took out too many or females or young ones they were destroying their own future. The price dive this year will only be temporary.
In 1988 I was in Deer Island, New Brunswick. This is big lobster fishing territory. The live lobsters were in crates in bays waiting for transport to market. Now what market? There was a small car/truck ferry that crossed over from Deer Island to the USA. Sometimes there was passport/customs control, sometimes not (this was pre 9-11). The motel we stayed at had a truck dripping water from you-guess-it. About 10 in the evening we were sitting outside our motel room when a phone call came through to our neighbouring room - and off that truck went.
We assume the phone call was to say the customs had gone to bed for the night and it was OK to truck those lobsters over from Canada so they could become American citizens and sold at a higher price as Maine lobsters.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 10, 2009 23:38:12 GMT
People used to cross back and forth between New Brunswick and "Le Bas-du-fleuve" (Lower St-Lawrence) in Québec to Maine all the time - a lot of families live on both sides of the border. A rather confused, obviously rustic eastern Québécois fellow couldn't understand why he was actually jailed for sneaking across the border to fill up his truck tank. Now, believe it or not, we need a passport to cross the border. No great shakes for us seasoned world travellers, but Jean-Louis from Ste-Anne-de-mille-vaches visiting his cousins in the next town over is a different matter. Bixa will of course remind me that it has always been like that for the Mexicans, but North American Free Trade was supposed to facilitate things for Mexicans, not harden them for Canadians...
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 11, 2009 1:05:20 GMT
We don't reeeeeeeeally believe that the impetus behind nafta was a benevolent regard for Mexicans, do we?
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Post by Don Cuevas on Jul 11, 2009 12:14:56 GMT
My Mom is probably in Seventh Heaven if the lobster prices are low. She is a lobster fiend.
I can take it or leave it. (lobster)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 19:09:46 GMT
We all know that crab is better.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 11, 2009 22:19:18 GMT
bixa, no of course I don't think that. But that is how it was sold.
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Post by hwinpp on Jul 13, 2009 8:42:55 GMT
I think crab is better too. But I wouldn't push a lobster off my table if I was living in a seafood free environment in the Mexican desert (correct me if I'm wrong, DC).
Anything from the sea is better than no- thing, right?
Lobsters are so often overdone I don't eat them anymore unless I can buy them alive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 9:19:41 GMT
The person who invents tender, tasty lobster will make a fortune.
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Post by Don Cuevas on Jul 15, 2009 0:06:44 GMT
I think crab is better too. But I wouldn't push a lobster off my table if I was living in a seafood free environment in the Mexican desert (correct me if I'm wrong, DC). Anything from the sea is better than no- thing, right? Lobsters are so often overdone I don't eat them anymore unless I can buy them alive. You'd be surprised how much frozen fresh seafood is available here in the more-or-less Mexican interior. However, we don't live in a desert; it's a piney mountain, green meadow area with lakes, the state of Michoacan*. We are 4 hours from the Pacific Coast, more practically, about 6 hours from well known fishing ports. tinyurl.com/l8uupnWe eat seafood out more often than any other type of food. picasaweb.google.com/doncuevas/MariscosLaGuera?feat=directlinkThat generally excellent restaurant has langosta and sometimes langostinos on the menu, but I've never ordered any due to the high price, and I suspect it's not something they are accustomed to cooking. I could be wrong. In other words, the risk:cost ratio is not favorable, IMO. *Unfortunately, Michoacán is very much in the news lately. But that's off topic. |
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Post by hwinpp on Jul 15, 2009 6:14:48 GMT
Good map resource! Thanks!
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Post by hwinpp on Jul 15, 2009 6:19:21 GMT
 Lovely! Preferable to lobster anytime, DC! |
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Post by Jazz on Jul 15, 2009 6:29:27 GMT
Perfect! And, someone has thoughtfully provided a pillow of rice to rest his head on for his last moments.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 15, 2009 11:40:38 GMT
Is that fried fish a tilapia? Marché Oriental, a supermarket near my house that stocks foods from all of East and Southeast Asia, is run by a Sino-Cambodian family. They do deep-fried whole tilapia like that. I don't buy them often because I don't want to eat too much fried food for health reasons, but they are very tasty. I also prefer crab to lobster. We get snow crab here, from eastern Québec and the Atlantic provinces: www.ats.agr.gc.ca/seafood/snow_crab-e.htm |
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Post by hwinpp on Jul 16, 2009 3:58:22 GMT
Could actually be a tilapia. I just checked it on fishbase.org and they're available in Mexico.
While I had a look there I realised what I eat 2 or 3 times a week is tilapia as well. They call it trey lapya here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 14:31:39 GMT
Tilapia is the fish that invaded the world just before panga.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2009 15:22:29 GMT
Tilapia is usually sold as "mojarra" in restaurants here, HW. It reminds me of fresh-water perch. As a cheap and readily available fish, it's a good one to practice on for fish cookery and the individually wrapped fillets are handy to keep in the freezer.
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Post by Don Cuevas on Jul 17, 2009 18:51:23 GMT
lagatta: "Is that fried fish a tilapia? "
They call it mojarra, as indicated by Bixa. However, its flesh is much firmer than any tilapia I've had.
The filete empanizado (breaded fish filet) at that restaurant (a place I dearly love) is a boring tasteless nothing in breadcrumbs and fried.
Nothing is perfect.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2009 23:06:44 GMT
*belated guffaw at Jazz's comment*
;D
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