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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 16:27:56 GMT
What do you imagine the origin of the term "eat crow" derives from? Without looking it up! I would guess Native American.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 16:32:21 GMT
I wouldn't think so. I would think more about early settlers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 16:34:38 GMT
So it's purely American? You haven't heard it used elsewhere?
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Post by imec on Oct 9, 2009 16:41:31 GMT
From Wikipedia FWIW...
Origin theories
Its original form, to eat boiled crow, first appeared in the 1850s in America.[1] Its exact origin is unknown but there are a number of explanations.
It may be related to the English idiom to eat humble pie.[1] The English phrase is something of a pun—"umbles" were the intestines, offal and other less valued meats of a deer. Pies made of this were known to be served to those of lesser class who did not eat at the king’s/lord’s/governor’s table. Another dish likely to be served with humble pie is rook pie (rooks being closely related to crows).
It may also be the American version of "umble," since the Oxford English Dictionary defines crow (sb3) as meaning "intestine or mesentery of an animal" and cites usages from the 1600s into the 1800s (e.g., Farley, Lond Art of Cookery: "the harslet, which consists of the liver, crow, kidneys, and skirts." [2]
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 20:59:53 GMT
Thanks I, READ THE OP! ("without looking up").
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Post by imec on Oct 9, 2009 21:02:04 GMT
sorry
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 21:05:57 GMT
So,what's for dinner tonight on your plate ?
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Post by imec on Oct 9, 2009 21:08:40 GMT
Maybe I'll flip through my old vinyl collection to find some of this...
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Post by fumobici on Oct 9, 2009 21:57:55 GMT
My favorite was 30 Days in the Hole. Hard to believe that insipid Frampton pop was an outgrowth.
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Post by imec on Oct 9, 2009 23:08:58 GMT
My favorite was 30 Days in the Hole. Hard to believe that insipid Frampton pop was an outgrowth. No kidding! I think it's called following the money.
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