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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 11:39:38 GMT
A lot of non-Americans do not understand how many regionalisms there are in the language in the United States. Here is just one example or the generic name for a carbonated beverage in America. (Click on the map to enlarge it.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 12:09:50 GMT
Look at Alaska! Must be because of people from all over US settling there. For me,will always be soda. I'll go along with other colloquialisms but not this one. Plus,I don't drink soda.
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Post by gringalais on Apr 24, 2009 16:10:44 GMT
Very interesting. It's soda for me too. The weirdest to me is calling any soda Coke. I don't remember ever hearing that, but then the states that say that are probably where I have spent the least time.
There are variations in South America too. Here in Chile they say "bebida" but I have been in other countries where it is "gaseosa" and I'm sure there are more I can't remember right now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 16:48:28 GMT
I'm from the Coke zone, but that term was only used for cola beverages anyway. But if you ordered a Coke and received a Pepsi or a Royal Crown, that was considered normal.
The generic term for the colorless stuff was 7-Up even if it was Sprite.
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Post by Kimby on Apr 24, 2009 17:58:54 GMT
I grew up in the pop zone around Madison Wisconsin, just across the line from the soda zone. People who call pop "coke" whether it's brown or not, are just nuts.
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Post by Kimby on Apr 24, 2009 17:59:42 GMT
What's the word for the public plumbing fixture that dispenses drinking water? Do you have a map for that, K2?
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Post by spaman on May 28, 2009 16:28:14 GMT
Here, on Long Island, it is soda. Coke is for Coca Cola.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 28, 2009 20:47:26 GMT
When we were little -- 7 and 5 -- my brother and I were taken to visit my dad's aunt and uncle outside of Boston. Aunt Kate repeatedly offered us tonic, and we repeatedly declined, politely saying, "We've already combed our hair." What chagrin when we found we'd been turning down pop.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on May 30, 2009 19:17:31 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on May 30, 2009 21:35:15 GMT
Ha ~~ I opened up the main page of the forum a few minutes ago and saw the thread "pleasant light pop" showing and automatically thought, "Huh? I thought there was already a thread about soft drinks going!"
Gringalais, soft drinks here are "refrescos".
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Post by Kimby on May 31, 2009 22:21:39 GMT
I know the answer without looking. I grew up in the land of the "bubbler"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2009 4:27:27 GMT
It was always a water fountain to me.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 1, 2009 4:47:58 GMT
It is a water fountain.
I'd like to know how the questions were phrased to create that soft drink map. I've lived in many of the places the map claims that people say "coke" generically for soft drink, & it just ain't so.
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Post by nutraxfornerves on Jun 1, 2009 17:34:10 GMT
The Harvard survey worded the question like this: What is your generic term for a sweetened carbonated beverage? a. soda b. pop c. coke d. tonic e. soft drink f. lemonade g. cocola h. fizzy drink i. dope j. other
One problem with the survey was that it was done online and is not necessarily statistically valid. If you look at the maps, you'll see not much between the Midwest and California. That's because they didn't get a significant amount of responses from the mountain states. They also did not collect information on where people grew up, as opposed to where they lived, which would reflect some uses.
When I was a kid, growing up in California, we always used "coke" generically, but I rarely hear it now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2009 18:11:32 GMT
I remember in Mississippi hearing 'Coke' used generically, but it was not universal.
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Post by Kimby on Jun 1, 2009 20:42:14 GMT
After "bubbler", drinking fountain - not water fountain - would have been the second most often heard in my experience.
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Post by dahuffy on Jul 10, 2010 0:57:59 GMT
It was always a water fountain to me. Water/Drinking Fountain. I was Minnesota born and raised.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2010 4:38:50 GMT
On some other travel site the other day, somebody was reporting about taking a tour where they sampled something like 24 varieties of Coke. When I read the details, it wasn't Coke at all but a bunch of sodas.
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Post by dahuffy on Jul 11, 2010 2:42:06 GMT
They have a place at Disney World where you can taste many different varieties of soda made by the Coca Cola company. I advise you to saty away from the "Beverly" it tastes like sweat!
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 12, 2010 17:30:33 GMT
Uhhhhhhhhhh ~~ Dahuffy, you know what the obvious question to ask here is, don't you? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 17:37:36 GMT
I went to the Coca Cola museum in Atlanta, and they had fountains for testing every single product made by Coca Cola in the world. I think that most people walked out of that room nauseous.
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Post by joanne28 on Jul 12, 2010 18:28:11 GMT
I grew up saying "soft drink" and still do. My husband says "pop" because from the age of 10 on he lived in the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) and that's what people say.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2010 19:12:21 GMT
When I went to northern Québec, I had to translate certain menu items from French to English and back again to figure out what they were talking about. "Roti" for toast was one thing, and of course "hambourgeois," but what really got me was "liqueurs douces" for soft drinks.
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Post by livaco on Jul 14, 2010 17:21:38 GMT
How interesting! I grew up and am living in a "soda" enclave surrounded by "pop" drinkers.
And kimby, I am smack in the middle of the "bubbler" part of the country. At school where I teach I can tell the teachers who are not from the Milwaukee area when they refer to the "drinking fountain". The kids usually set them straight.
Oddly, my brother has ended up living on the East Coast right in the other part of the country that says "bubbler". He might be forgiven for thinking the whole USA uses the term, but it's only the two small areas.
In the UK, they call the 7up/Sprite kind of soda "lemonade". I never could get used to that.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 15, 2010 18:30:48 GMT
Yikes on that UK word for 7up. What are they thinking?
One of the interesting things about Livaco's post is that it points up something many people may not realize. That is that somehow the midwestern part of the US has been relegated to the status of something generic and boring. Nothing could be further from the truth. For one thing, as you move through the midwest you're moving through parts of the American history of immigration and settlement and evidence of that is to be found everywhere, some of it quite localized.
I have a friend here who is in his early 70s and from Milwaukee. It's fun to listen to him talk about all the "Germanisms" still prevalent there in his childhood.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2010 21:13:41 GMT
In the British Isles, lemon-lime soda has always been called lemonade, perhaps as a corruption of the French name for it, limonade.
In both France and the British Isles, the term for what the Americans (and I suppose Canadians) call lemonade is citronade.
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Post by dahuffy on Jul 16, 2010 2:49:19 GMT
Uhhhhhhhhhh ~~ Dahuffy, you know what the obvious question to ask here is, don't you? ;D I was wondering how long it would take for someone to ask that question!
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