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Post by fumobici on Jul 29, 2022 17:41:39 GMT
I went into siesta mode for the first time in my life in the Tuscan summer heat. I'd stay up until midnight-1 AM, get up around 5, then take a three or four hour nap during the hottest part of the afternoon. It felt strange and possibly sinful and I was afraid it'd mess my sleep cycle up, but after a couple of days it was obvious that it made perfect sense. If you don't get your needed sleep at night, make up for it during the next day. It's fine. Really. You won't be sent to hell.
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Post by lugg on Jul 29, 2022 18:57:29 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the requisite straight 7/8 hours is a fairly modern norm. A couple ? few of hundred years ago (at least in the UK) people would go to bed early and then get up during the night and socialise etc before going back to bed again. I will see if I can find the link . Anyway it brought me comfort reading it .
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Post by lugg on Jul 29, 2022 18:59:35 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 29, 2022 19:09:35 GMT
When I was working, I found myself getting up at 06:00 for no good reason other than I like wandering around doing nothing before having to do useful things. I used to sleep until 07:00 or 07:30, which still left me plenty of time. In fact, even if I had left my bed at 08:15, I still would have had enough time to get to work on time. Now that I have stopped working, I wake up at 05:00, sometimes even 04:30. (Bedtime is generally 23:00 or 23:30 but there is no steadfast rule.) This annoyed me at first, but now I am used to it. Actually, the annoying thing is that I find myself watching the reruns of game shows and soap operas that I would never have watched otherwise. It is a relief for real life when the early news begins at 06:00.
Obviously, I find myself napping a bit most afternoons.
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Post by onlyMark on Jul 30, 2022 6:33:04 GMT
I remember reading somewhere that the requisite straight 7/8 hours is a fairly modern norm. A couple ? few of hundred years ago (at least in the UK) people would go to bed early and then get up during the night and socialise etc before going back to bed again. I will see if I can find the link . Anyway it brought me comfort reading it . It was this one probably. I read that as well - www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 30, 2022 17:10:32 GMT
I wound up reading these in reverse order, since I sometimes read threads from the bottom up. Absolutely riveting reading! Taken together, the articles present a picture of human history that was apparently hiding in plain sight. And it's not even very distant history!
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 30, 2022 17:53:03 GMT
Actually, I was under the impression that it was a normal British habit, at least among the elite until the middle of the 20th century. I have read so many books in which these people were served tea in bed more or less at dawn and then went back to sleep for a number of hours. It seemed very civilised but not accessible to commoners.
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Post by onlyMark on Jul 30, 2022 19:47:45 GMT
The elite had no need to get up. The rest slept for a few hours, woke up in the middle of the night for a couple of hours then went back to sleep to wake up as normal for work. Young kids had to get up particularly early to be sent up the chimneys to clean them before the Squire at the big house got up so a fire could be lit for him.
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Post by lugg on Jul 30, 2022 20:57:12 GMT
No not that one Mark - but it is really interesting too. I was under the impression that it was a normal British habit, More than a UK habit K2 - see links
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Post by tod2 on Aug 2, 2022 16:55:41 GMT
I had an appointment with a new doctor today. My doctor retired two years ago and the last time I saw him was about a year before that when I was being wheeled into surgery for my hip replacement. So, you see I have been wondering in the loneliness of no new ailments but lately I felt that being on the same medication for years on end was doing me no good. My nightmares came to a head last night when I had three distinctive dreams all loud and "blue" with un-repeatable language and swearing. I screamed and even as dawn was breaking I was rambling on and on. I told my doctor I had gone back onto my medication three days ago for reflux. All other medicines were stopped months ago but recently I felt uncomfortable during the night so started taking the reflux tabs again. He sorted me out and tomorrow I go for blood sucking and then we will see what's what!
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Post by mickthecactus on Aug 2, 2022 17:27:06 GMT
So you’ve just stopped taking your medication?
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Post by tod2 on Aug 3, 2022 16:18:14 GMT
Yes, guilty as charged. There is usually a 6 months repeat on prescriptions but having to renew it means another huge bill at the doctors. They used to let you phone in and ask for a repeat but realising it was loosing them revenue they stopped doing that years ago. So what do people do - they persuade the pharmacist to keep repeating it - there must be some kind of alibi to tie these repeats to but I'm not asking. As a matter of fact I realize it is so stupid to keep on indefinitely with the same pills but what do you think when a doctor tells you "You will have to take these tablets for the rest of your life". ?? So every time you need more you have to cross his palm with paper...plastic....actual money? I guess so.
My new doc was pleased I had no signals from a medicated state and said my blood pressure sans tablets was "borderline" which means it wasn't terrible - And not medication to follow just yet. My blood was taken at 8am this morning but did not go well. Couldn't find the vein on my left arm so after a poke about changed to my right arm where luckily the blood spilled forth. I'm a bit of a baby and cannot watch. I have to turn my head away. On 20th I will get the result when my new Doc returns from a holiday in Ireland.
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 3, 2022 16:45:24 GMT
We only get 3 month renewals in France. And the 25 euro fee from the doctor is refunded by health insurance.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Aug 4, 2022 8:22:03 GMT
We have our meds all on repeat prescription. My asthma and allergy meds, OH takes various heart meds and our son has to take lots too. All are on repeat prescription, son doesn't have to pay as he is on disability benefits, Jeff and I have free prescriptions because we are over 60. I love the NHS.
Got my asthma review next week, by telephone.
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Post by bjd on Aug 4, 2022 9:01:15 GMT
The only thing I take is calcium for osteoporosis. It's also available without a prescription so I often just go and buy it. My doctor in Toulouse just left me a new prescription in his waiting room when I asked for one, since he knew I would go and see him if there was anything really important. This new guy here won't do that and it really pisses me off to have to make an appointment, go and see him for 5 minutes to renew the prescription for 3 months. He claims I get the money back (well, 23 out of the 25€ for the visit) but it still annoys me. I haven't seen him for over 6 months.
I will have to go before September to get a medical certificate for the gym.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 4, 2022 14:17:08 GMT
Interesting about needing the medical certificate for the gym, Bjd. Does everyone have to have one, or only people above a certain age? I'm surprised you even need calcium, since you're so active and have such a good diet. Were you diagnosed for osteoporosis, if you don't mind my asking? I just looked up the relationship between diet & osteoporosis. On the face of it, it seems simple enough to ward it off by choosing the right foods. But when it gets to the part about absorption of cacium, it's kind of bewildering & shows why calcium pills would be helpful. www.bonehealthandosteoporosis.org/patients/treatment/nutrition/
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Post by tod2 on Aug 4, 2022 16:18:16 GMT
Sorry to intrude on this Calcium thread....On reading bjd's sentence on taking calcium pills I immediately thought "Oh heck kidney stones recipe". And then there is calcium and then there is a special way it has to be absorbed. Please let is know more bjd... For instance is the calcium chelated?
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 4, 2022 16:36:10 GMT
Sorry to intrude on this Calcium thread ~ You're good, Tod, as this is the sleep/insomnia thread. But isn't it true that calcium helps people sleep, as in the warm milk before bed thing?
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Post by bjd on Aug 4, 2022 19:08:05 GMT
I didn't think my little comment would lead to this! Anyway, yes I have osteoporosis. Women are checked every few years starting around age 45. The gynecologist I used to go to prescribed some pills for it but after a year or two, I developed splitting headaches that lasted about 48 hours. After being tested for eye and sinus problems, seeing a neurologist, etc, I learned that it was the pills which contained some hormone.
Anyway, I immediately stopped taking them and my general practitioner said that even eating dairy products is not enough and to take the calcium pills which also have a bit of Vitamin D to help absorb it. Yes, I am active but obviously nsleed the calcium. The last time I had my bone density measured it was decreasing very slowly so physical weight-bearing activity plus the calcium pills is what I need.It took quite a long time for the headaches to go away.
Tod -- I don't know if it's chelated -- the label says "carbonate de calcium". It does not help me sleep.
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