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Post by Kimby on Jun 23, 2022 21:26:48 GMT
Yes, the American Experiment is on the brink of collapsing.
All the witnesses called have been Republicans or self-identified conservatives, and yet today’s GOP has sold its soul to the devil whose name is Trump.
Our screwy system allows a minority to rule and worse, to change the rules to ensure that they will maintain their grip on power.
I am not optimistic that the hearings will change many minds. Though the fact that Trump TRICKED his supporters into giving him money supposedly to fight the big lie, but it ended up in his pockets and the bank accounts of his cronies.
Half of America has lost its mind. Our only hope is Merrill Garland’s Department of Justice putting Trump and his cabal in prison.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 23, 2022 22:21:23 GMT
Yes. As Kimby pointed out, their embrace -- whether sincere or not -- of the lie about the election is putting the US at risk.
It's highly doubtful that all of the venal shithooks who parrot the claims of a stolen election really believe those claims. What is not in doubt is that they will do anything and follow anyone who will keep them and their party in power.
And the American people are grievously at fault for marinating themselves in non-information designed to exploit their fears and their prejudices and their nauseating desire to simply follow without question. There is real fact-checked information readily available and one way to not know it to refuse to either see it or to give it credence.
But the other way to not know it is equally insidious. That is, to consider yourself on the correct, liberal side of things but to lazily fail to inform yourself with the information at hand. One so-called liberal of my acquaintance was outraged at some of the details presented in the January 6 Committee hearings. I was equally outraged that he didn't already know some of the things he was sputtering about. Yes, of course the hearings are bringing many things to light that the public at large did not know. But we should be learning about those things in the context of what we have had ample opportunity to learn beforehand. How can we possibly hope to refute misconceptions or outright lies if we haven't educated ourselves on the basic facts? How can we as citizens remain alert to dangers to the fabric of our country if we are too lazy or too complacent to inform ourselves?
Yes, I am ranting here out of alarm at what has and is continuing to happen, exactly as Kimby spelled out above.
But hell's bells ~ how did it get this way? The question about The Guardian article was asked by a citizen of the UK, in disbelief that such a large group of people could be so misguided, either out of stupidity or by design. The UK only got Brexit from a campaign of lies and misinformation. The US is a younger, crazier country and appears willing to flush itself completely down the toilet.
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Post by bjd on Jun 24, 2022 6:26:33 GMT
Another thing that could be added to the US system is term limits. For Supreme Court justices, politicians, etc. Thanks to Trump and McConnell, there is a conservative majority on the bench of the supreme court, ruling on things like abortion, gun control -- or rather the lack of it. Just yesterday they ruled that New York is not allowed to implement stricter gun control.
Give them a 2-year limit and make them more responsible for what they rule. And no politician should be able to sit in Congress for terms and terms.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 24, 2022 7:39:17 GMT
Venal shithooks! Wow....
That woman must have been born in a library.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 24, 2022 16:18:20 GMT
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jun 25, 2022 8:57:02 GMT
There is a lot of coverage on the news here about the Supreme Court decision and everybody is very shocked. 6 people have made a decision about the the rights of millions. Is here any chance that there could be a public referendum? How would that go?
My heart goes out to the moderate, educated millions of Americans. We respect, admire and LOVE you and feel your horror at the way Trump and other crazies have far too much power.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 25, 2022 9:00:23 GMT
I don't see why Trump worried about reelection. He fixed the country to correspond to his agenda even after he left.
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Post by bjd on Jun 25, 2022 18:04:02 GMT
I heard an interesting discussion this evening. On the subject of the latest Supreme Court decisions, an American journalist (who works abroad, mostly in the Middle East) was saying that the Democrats will lose the mid-terms because they have failed to use whatever strength they had after the presidential election. Biden should have nominated more judges to the Supreme Court, should have arrested Trump on January 21, 2021, been stronger on pushing a progressive agenda. He said the Democrats were trying to be nice while the Republicans play dirty.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 25, 2022 18:09:18 GMT
You mean that Biden should have increased the size of the Supreme Court. He can't nominate any judges until there is a vacancy. But, yes, Biden is extremely weak in trying to be consensual. He doesn't have the guts to be combative.
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Post by lugg on Jun 25, 2022 20:04:44 GMT
I feel equally as sick about the Supreme Court decision as I did about Brexit. Actually more so .
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Post by bjd on Jun 26, 2022 6:54:04 GMT
You mean that Biden should have increased the size of the Supreme Court. He can't nominate any judges until there is a vacancy. But, yes, Biden is extremely weak in trying to be consensual. He doesn't have the guts to be combative. Since there is no constitutional measure fixing the size of the Supreme Court, Biden could have nominated more judges. I remember it was one of the measures talked about early on in Biden's presidency. But he refuses to do it.
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Post by whatagain on Jun 26, 2022 9:54:12 GMT
The timing of the supreme court decision is perfect for Biden's trip to Saudi Arabia. Saudis will be pleased to see how back in time US has relegated women's rights.
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Post by Kimby on Jun 26, 2022 15:16:31 GMT
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Post by lugg on Jul 14, 2022 20:52:54 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 14, 2022 21:10:18 GMT
Yes, I just saw that, too. Since she was the mother of most of the wonderful Trump children, I think it is very important. But it will be even more important to see how the ex-husband himself reacts.
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Post by fumobici on Jul 14, 2022 21:23:56 GMT
Yes, I just saw that, too. Since she was the mother of most of the wonderful Trump children, I think it is very important. But it will be even more important to see how the ex-husband himself reacts. He won't react at all ex pro forma. There's nothing inside to feel, to motivate feeling.
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Post by mich64 on Jul 14, 2022 23:09:29 GMT
Twitter posts are showing that he has since posted a notice of her passing on his political website that included a request for donations at the bottom of the message.
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Post by bjd on Jul 15, 2022 6:37:01 GMT
I'm waiting for an obituary of Trump.
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 15, 2022 12:22:12 GMT
Twitter posts are showing that he has since posted a notice of her passing on his political website that included a request for donations at the bottom of the message. Classy. I'm used to seeing announcements like "No flowers, by request, but donations to [charity XYZ] welcome] - but that takes opportunism to a whole new leveldepth.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 15, 2022 12:47:50 GMT
He should have taken out a funeral plan..
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Post by casimira on Jul 15, 2022 19:11:09 GMT
I'm waiting for an obituary of Trump. His first wife beat him to it.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 9, 2022 0:34:10 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Aug 9, 2022 3:20:18 GMT
Yeah, I read the same story in the Guardian. I'd love to see Melania charged with something.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 9, 2022 15:38:42 GMT
I don't care about the ex First Bimbo, just want to see the real players gotten & gotten good.
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Post by casimira on Aug 9, 2022 15:59:20 GMT
Yeah, I read the same story in the Guardian. I'd love to see Melania charged with something. That's a bit harsh, no? Just because she used poor judgement in her choice of a spouse doesn't merit any further punishment other than that which she chose to do.
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Post by lagatta on Aug 10, 2022 19:59:12 GMT
Yes, it is. I do find her very annoying.
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Post by lugg on Aug 10, 2022 20:44:42 GMT
I read somewhere - cant remember where now, that actually the FBI raid has just played into Trumps hands and now he is likely to announce he is running again for POTUS - please tell me this isn't likely ?
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Post by htmb on Aug 10, 2022 20:48:44 GMT
Sounds like that’s been his plan all along. He’s currently fundraising and using the raid to generate money, either for re-election or legal expenses. Of course, he has never missed an opportunity to fleece his gullible supporters.
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Post by casimira on Aug 11, 2022 12:31:13 GMT
It would not surprise me one bit if he did.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 11, 2022 15:31:35 GMT
I read somewhere - cant remember where now, that actually the FBI raid has just played into Trumps hands and now he is likely to announce he is running again for POTUS - please tell me this isn't likely ? It is possible that El Creepo will announce early, but the way things are going, he's probably already lost the saner, more informed portion of his base. He can yell "witch hunt" all he likes, but as Heather Cox Richardson highlighted, Trump has a copy of the search warrant and also a official list of what the FBI found, but has declined to share that information with the public. sourceThe FBI search coupled with Trump's repeatedly taking the fifth in yesterday's deposition, not to mention the revelations of the January 6 Committee hearings will certainly turn some Republican with functioning brains and a sense of ethics against him. We can but hope. A reason why he wants to be president again: ... Trump has spent the last few months making it clear to confidantes that a third run will happen in part because he thinks the many investigations against him—and threats of indictments and jail time—will go away if he is president. According to a source ... Trump has “spoken about how when you are the president of the United States, it is tough for politically motivated prosecutors to ‘get to you.’” This person added that Trump “says when ... he is president again, a new Republican administration will put a stop to the [Justice Department] investigation ... sourceWhat happens if he's convicted of something before the 2024 election? www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/09/can-donald-trump-run-president-if-convicted-removi/
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