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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 14, 2018 18:33:09 GMT
In 1998, the theme song for the French team was Gloria Gaynor's I Will Survive.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 14, 2018 19:02:05 GMT
Some of these remarkable photos about people in Montreuil (a suburb bordering the 20th arrondissement in Paris) watching France winning the semi-final match were at the Libération website, but they are all here: jean-fabien.exposure.co/le-soir-ou-montreuil-est-alle-en-finale There are all sorts of people; ethnicities, social classes, ages. Generally very happy! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 12:07:40 GMT
CROATIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (note:I haven't watched a single match to date).
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Post by whatagain on Jul 15, 2018 12:38:17 GMT
I will of course say bravo to Belgium for their 3rd place finish, because they were obviously one of the finest teams in the competition. Vil flatteur. Anyway the country is proud but I am surprised at the level of french bashing I am hearing here. Esp by the young ones. |
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Post by lagatta on Jul 15, 2018 12:56:23 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 13:28:06 GMT
I was reading in some British article that the suburbs of Paris have become the principal football talent pool in the world, having surpassed Sao Paulo, Brazil. The Paris suburbs are packed with excellent youth football programmes, and the international scouts keep an eye on quite a few clubs.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 15, 2018 13:54:56 GMT
What town is Donatello from?
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Post by lagatta on Jul 15, 2018 14:25:11 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 14:50:55 GMT
He was born in Paris 19.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 15, 2018 15:02:26 GMT
Not far from your place?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 15:30:06 GMT
Vil flatteur. Anyway the country is proud but I am surprised at the level of french bashing I am hearing here. Esp by the young ones.
I think it's quite normal. Just about anybody whose team has lost against one of the "big" countries automatically supports the underdog.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 15:45:13 GMT
Ever since I moved from Paris 19 to Paris 18 more than 20 years ago, I don't give those people in Paris 19 the time of day anymore.  |
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 15, 2018 16:18:50 GMT
Looks like itâs all over.
Well done frogs!
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 15, 2018 16:28:51 GMT
What has Lloris done?!
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 16:37:51 GMT
It's a rather wild match.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 15, 2018 16:55:33 GMT
Bit nervy at the end but they got there.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 16:56:43 GMT
The streets of Paris are a bit noisy at the moment.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 15, 2018 17:08:57 GMT
The frogs đž are jumping!
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2018 18:42:21 GMT
Frankly, Russia appears to have done an excellent job hosting the World Cup although many of us had our doubts. Now it is time to start having doubts about Qatar in 2022. I'm quite sure they will do a "luxurious" job, but is that what we really want? I don't think so.
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Post by mossie on Jul 16, 2018 7:53:19 GMT
Well done Froggies!
Not too sure about Qatar, not fond memories of playing on sand pitches in Eggwipe. There is no loose sand, it has all blown away. So DO NOT FALL OVER. Nappy rash it isnât.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 16, 2018 11:32:00 GMT
This video has a certain amount of interesting information and also some bullshit.
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Post by bjd on Jul 16, 2018 12:07:51 GMT
I'm pleased that France won, but now we will have to put up with endless analysis and "news" about the whole thing for days on end.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 16, 2018 13:46:31 GMT
That video was better than most I've seen (at least in languages other than French). And at least it said that "banlieue" can imply immigrant ghetto, not that it always does. Clairefontaine is a banlieue, so are Versailles and Neuilly. And there are also middle-income banlieues.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 16, 2018 13:56:19 GMT
In French, banlieue absolutely never implies immigrant ghetto. It only implies that in its weird English media usage, probably because they are afraid of defiling the word suburb.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 16, 2018 14:28:51 GMT
Yes, I've often criticised articles in English misusing it that way. I do think this was somewhat more accurate than the ridiculous English use generally seen. And Paris has remained relatively small in terms of land area, so obviously a large majority of inhabitants of Greater Paris live outside the 20 arrondissements.
There is a general caricature of interethnic relationships in France in the anglophone media, even in those that should know better.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 16, 2018 15:25:01 GMT
Yes, for some reason they do not want to think that France is a melting pot, or rather that the French "forced march" to adopting French ideals actually works (obviously it doesn't always work but it usually does), but in my opinion it works a lot more than in countries that nourish ethnic differences and traditions and do not try to have people from other parts of the world fit in. I was amused to see that the area near me that was displaying the most French flags in recent days was the Little India area behind Gare du Nord.
One thing I was thinking of in terms of Mbappé's sudden glory is that absolutely nobody here mentions that he is from anywhere other than the suburb of Bondy. And of course, whereas in certain countries, he would automatically be called black because of his father, nobody has ever mentioned his (mixed) race here. He is what he is -- a proud Frenchman with a Cameroonian father and an Algerian mother. That's what France is all about, in spite of how most foreign media see things.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 15:33:34 GMT
Was I reading "fake news" when this morning an article in a NY journal reported that there 2 deaths (including a child run over by a motorcycle) and umpteen injuries, tear gas, water hosings, fires, bedlam in the "celebration"?
Mon Dieu!!!
And, the Europeans dis American "football" all over the place as being barbaric.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 16, 2018 16:20:50 GMT
Actually there were three children hit by a motorcycle out of control, but they were just injured. The two deaths were a woman hitting a post with her car, and a man who dived into a canal in Annecy that was too shallow, and he broke his neck.
There were a few trashers late in the night. There always are.
None of this happened on a football pitch, unlike that barbaric American sport where people bash their brains out and die in spite of all that protection which there very dearly need. Why don't they play "football" in shorts and with no helmets and pads?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 16, 2018 16:48:27 GMT
Do you think those people were football fans? I don't think that football fans bring face masking hoods to a sports celebration.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 16, 2018 18:04:44 GMT
For the victory celebration this evening, the Elysée Palace (in other words the president), invited about 3000 young people, mostly from the towns from which the players hail, to a huge garden party where they can mingle with the champions. It was pretty much incredible to see the incredible excitement of the kids, especially when captain Hugo Lloris reached out into the crowd so that the teenagers could actually touch the World Cup.
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