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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 6:28:30 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 25, 2009 7:19:28 GMT
Gad, that makes so much more sense than the traditional prison! Really, the punishment is to lose ones freedom. Regular prisons are death to the spirit of the incarcerated and the jailers alike. And probably just as much money is spent on them as was spent on the attractive facility shown here.
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Post by spindrift on Mar 25, 2009 16:08:30 GMT
Well, I don't agree with what you say Bixa.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 25, 2009 17:47:07 GMT
Why not ~~ because the traditional methods have worked so well?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 18:06:30 GMT
Personally, I think that the rehabilitation of prisoners would go much better if their incarceration took place in more pleasant conditions.
Unfortunately, I also think that if the prison is nicer than the conditions into which they are later placed, there is going to be a problem.
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Post by BigIain on Mar 25, 2009 19:04:14 GMT
That looks better than my flat! Funny people the Austrians
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 25, 2009 21:54:45 GMT
The cell is nicer than my dorm room in college, and is not shared. However, I could leave my dorm room whenever I wished and go wherever I wanted.
The prisoners have a nice rec room -- if you like watching your favorite program with people playing foosball right next to you, or panting on the exercycle. Many people like going out to the gym -- not just using it because it's one of the few options for exercise.
Think of never having total privacy, never phoning out for a pizza or having people over, or taking a drive, or doing any of the simple things we take for granted in keeping ourselves sane and happy.
All that bright airiness also serves to keep the prisoners under surveillance and would certainly deter prisoner-on-prisoner or guard-on-prisoner abuse.
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Post by lagatta on Mar 26, 2009 16:22:55 GMT
I agree, the airiness is definitely a safety factor.
I do hope I can find a room that nice if I go to Austria to study German, though no, I have no intention of committing a crime to get admitted to that residence.
I knew someone who was in a minimum security facility not too different from that. It is still deeply unpleasant. This person had been falsely convicted of a non-violent crime, and got an apology, but never got his life back.
Josef Fritzl, of course, is in one of those facilities for the criminally insane. I know somebody who works at the one here, called L'Insitut Pinel after a famous French penal reformer. He has stories... The Hitlers are much scarier than the Jesuses, as the Jesuses have carried out their "mission". This is where the people who make tabloid front pages for lurid crimes with no apparent motive wind up...
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Post by spindrift on Mar 30, 2009 7:27:53 GMT
I won't explain my thoughts because I would feel a rant coming on!
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Post by bazfaz on Mar 30, 2009 7:54:34 GMT
I believe that in Poland you can spend any zlotys you earn doing prison work on buying beer.
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Post by gringalais on Mar 30, 2009 18:40:18 GMT
We were watching a documentary the other night about this prison they have here that is like a farm. The prisoners do all the work of running the farm and it is not even fenced in. We missed the beginning, but it seems like it is an option for well-behaved prisoners. It definitely looked a lot better than the normal prisons here. My husband did his law internship in one of the maximum security prisons, and says conditions are horrible - very overcrowded, lots of fighting, etc. Even so, one guy escaped and ended up being sent back to a normal prison facility once he was caught.
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Post by hwinpp on Mar 31, 2009 9:18:19 GMT
It looks a bit like my old university library.  There's a nicer one of it at night but I can't make it appear.  |
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