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Post by questa on Dec 12, 2019 12:47:27 GMT
I am surprised that no-one has mentioned here the tragedy in NZ when a volcano in a tourist area erupted with loss of life. Tomorrow the helicopters will try to retrieve the remaining bodies before the next expected blast. Survivors are badly burned and lung damage extensive. A cruise ship had just left the area in time. More will come of this.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 12, 2019 16:42:00 GMT
I read that NZ had ordered 1.2m square centimetres of skin from the USA. How do they do that?
There are 90 degree burns with the average 40 to 50. That is horrible.
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Post by whatagain on Dec 12, 2019 17:06:18 GMT
I read it is a private island with private tours being organised. Wonder who will be held responsible. Seems irresponsible to take tourists to a volcano that has had so many eruptions in the close past.
Anyway we had snow today in Milan and more is expected this night. After I take off i hope.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 12, 2019 19:24:57 GMT
The tourists are almost certainly not at fault since I'm sure they were told that there was no danger at all.
But since there were warning signs before the volcano actually erupted, I'm pretty sure that there will be criminal prosecution of the tour operators.
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Post by lugg on Dec 12, 2019 19:39:08 GMT
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Post by questa on Dec 13, 2019 4:53:52 GMT
The visitors had to sign a waiver before they left the boat.
It is not just burns but blast injuries and severe internal injuries from breathing in the super-heated dust and detritus that is the trouble.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 13, 2019 5:02:03 GMT
In 1902, the eruption Mont Pelée in Martinique killed the entire population of Saint Pierre -- 30,000 -- except for one survivor, who was in solitary confinement at the bottom of the city prison, which of course had very thick stone walls. He was found 3 days later. He was hired by the American Barnum circus to exhibit his burns.
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Post by questa on Dec 14, 2019 0:07:54 GMT
They had an article about the skin graft procedure on TV last night. People can donate their skin just like any other organ or tissue. The skin is removed carefully and washed in certain chemicals. (I wasn't paying full attention...busy) It is shaped into sheets of various sizes...looks like a very thin,pale translucent and slippery cling-wrap. This is folded into packets and kept in refrigeration until needed.
The patient with severe burns will need at least 3 grafts as there is often not enough unburnt skin to anchor a graft to at first.
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Post by monetsmum on Dec 14, 2019 7:54:11 GMT
My younger son and his girlfriend are currently touring NZ. Even before this hit the news here they sent me a text saying they were both ok. They were on the western side of the north island at the time. The same thing happened when the shark attack happened off the Whitsunday Islands. They'd taken a 10 day trip to Australia to celebrate the girlfriend's birthday at the end of October. They were due to visit the islands the following day, and were driving up the coast from Brisbane when they heard the news about the attack. Again, another 5am text message telling me that they were ok. They went ahead with their visit, but I'm not sure that my nerves will survive another year of this.   |
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 14, 2019 8:23:42 GMT
Very unnerving MM. You'll be glad when they're home!
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Post by questa on Dec 14, 2019 8:51:32 GMT
They will have some exciting tales to tell at the dinner table.
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Post by monetsmum on Dec 14, 2019 10:25:50 GMT
Very unnerving MM. You'll be glad when they're home! Yes, I will Mick. They began their adventure in Southeast Asia in April 2018, though they came home for the whole of November this year and last. Worked in Auckland for 9 months, during which they bought a camper van, completely gutted and refurbished it and set off on their travels again. I'm not a traveller so it's great to see it all vicariously. I even had a video tour of the Garden in the Sky in Singapore.
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Post by monetsmum on Dec 14, 2019 10:26:19 GMT
They will have some exciting tales to tell at the dinner table. Oh yes!!!
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 27, 2019 17:14:53 GMT
The visitors had to sign a waiver before they left the boat. That would have been me. I've always wanted to see a volcano up close, so would have grabbed the opportunity. Were the tour operators just stupid, greedy, inadequately informed, or what? After all, they put themselves into the same danger as their group of tourists. The same thing happened when the shark attack happened off the Whitsunday Islands. Yikes. Would not have been me, with my lifelong fear of open water & its attendant toothy dangers. In a conversation with my mother the other day I mentioned that I would love to go back to Istanbul. She said that now wouldn't be a good time, whereupon I countered with the fact that there was an incident when I was there before, ditto being in the south of France when Nice had the terrorist incident, and also in London when that first attack on the bridge happened and that I was unscathed. She sighed and cited school, etc. shootings in the good ole country of my birth. |
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