Watching Joe Biden address Congress. We're only 100 days into his term, but so far I think he's probably the best President of my adult life. I wasn't a fan of his, I didn't even vote for him, but I'm turning into a fan. May it continue.
Several countries paid people to turn in their guns, and it worked. Of course there are so many guns in the United States that it would be another one of those trillion dollar projects. (Naturally, the gun fanatics would never turn in their guns, but all of the urban people with Saturday night specials are generally more interested in instant money than shooting at random.)
Several countries paid people to turn in their guns, and it worked.
Gun ownership is huge in the US, but control has to start somewhere & paying people to turn in their guns seems a good start. That, and making it illegal to own the damned things.
My grandmother had a gold piece, I don't remember if it was a $5 or $10 dollar coin, but I know as a kid I was intrigued to hear about people turning in their gold & that my grandmother's coin was a legal no-no.
On April 20 , FDR ordered Americans to turn in their gold in exchange for dollarssource
My dad was a hunter and a gunsmith who built at least one gun from scratch, carving the stock himself.
When he died my sister and I had to dispose of 17 weapons, mostly hunting rifles and shotguns but several handguns that he kept for protection (and as far as I know, never had to use as such). She found a retired lawman who resells guns for a living,and within a matter of months had turned our 17 guns into about $7000 cash, after his commission.
I’m sure Dad would not have surrendered his firearms for cash. They were family heirlooms (his grandpa’s rifle, for example), and sporting equipment.
But people like my dad aren’t the problem. It’s the criminals who use guns in their criminal activities. Or the psychopaths who take pleasure in killing others or at least scaring the shit out of them.
Background checks are essential, but they only catch legal sales. I think ammunition could be taxed really high to make it harder to get, but people have been hoarding ammo for years already. Red flag laws, where police have to investigate when a family member reports concern about someone with access to guns, would help. And any gun used in a crime should be confiscated and melted down.
But registering guns to an owner would be really helpful, though 2nd amendment folks view that as a precursor to confiscating their guns. It’s a really thorny problem.
Many mass shootings are carried out with legal weapons -- maybe those weapons did not belong to the shooter, but he got his hands on them anyway. And pretty much anyone with no alarming history can go get a gun legally. That person, who has no prior criminal history, can then use the gun. Why does someone who doesn't need a gun (that's pretty much everyone) want the damned thing? There must be at least some latent intent to use it.
Anecdotal evidence about law-abiding citizens who keep guns for hunting or because they're enthusiasts don't really have a bearing on the situation in the US, which is completely out of control. If giving up great-great-great grandpa's still functional Revolutionary war firestick prevents a single school shooting -- hell, any shooting -- isn't it worth it?
Why is there mousing around about the damned guns? We already know there are too many out there. We already know how much gun violence there is in our country. Other countries don't have an entire populace armed to the teeth. I guess it's similar to the shit lack of a medical system in the US -- "we've always done it this way".
Every now and then, one needs a president who is willing to go against public opinion and stick to his guns (oops). François Mitterrand was elected president in France 40 years ago yesterday. 63% of the French were in favour of capital punishment, but he said he would abolish it, and he did. Three months later, it was signed into law. 369 votes in the national assembly for abolition, 113 against.
The problem in the US is that the majority who support some regulation of guns are not the same people as the rabid 2nd amendment folks. And the minority is packing heat, for the express purpose of thwarting a tyrannical government.
I absolutely understand that living in Montana makes it seem impossible. But if the most progressive states started taking very firm action to ban guns, it might finally start gaining ground if the subsequent crime/murder statistics showed that it worked.
Of course now I'm wondering if the unexpected cancellation of the "citizens arrest" law in Republican Georgia will have any influence on the other 49 states.
Absolutely agree. We have seen with the pandemic that states with strict controls were undercut by those with lax or no controls. The state borders are mostly just lines on maps, so anything affecting the country as a whole should be dealt with by the federal government. This crap of throwing it back to the states is analogous to facebook's recent attempt to make another entity do the right thing re: Trump.
I remember border checkpoints in California for fruits and vegetables.
Yeah, and all you have to do is look at a map and detour around the controlled border crossing to circumvent those. There are only sixteen of them for the entire state and hundreds of open, uncontrolled alternate routes. It would be like trying to do effective border controls between France and Germany or Belgium (or, say topically, NI and the RoI) today, hopeless without spending metric shit tons.
My stepfather was the sort of basic conservative American who owned a handgun for "protection." When I emptied the house, I put it in the storage box with the ammunition for my brother to collect when I should have probably binned it. But my brother is the sort of person who probably reacted with surprise and delight when he discovered it (Christmas and birthday all rolled into one!). He is harmless (famous last words) so am not too worried.
Anyway, back to my stepfather, whose military past was so ingrained in terms of respecting rules and laws that my mother and I regularly shocked him with some of our minor shenanigans. If ever any state had made a law saying that it was illegal to transport any sort of firearm across state lines, he absolutely would NEVER have broken such a law. Are there no Americans like that left?
As for smuggling, etc, it has always existed and will always exist. But making absolutely no effort to control the circulation of weapons is not exactly going to solve the problem.