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Jul 23, 2019 19:17:15 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jul 23, 2019 19:17:15 GMT
I was wondering what on earth he was doing with those kippers...
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Jul 23, 2019 19:41:20 GMT
Post by bjd on Jul 23, 2019 19:41:20 GMT
I was wondering what on earth he was doing with those kippers... Lying, as usual. Like his floppy-haired buddy across the Atlantic.
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Jul 23, 2019 19:49:23 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 23, 2019 19:49:23 GMT
Well, PM Johnson is in charge now so we will just have to live with that.
Until further notice.
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Jul 23, 2019 19:55:31 GMT
Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 23, 2019 19:55:31 GMT
Dont think he'll last long tbf. Bloke is about as statesmanlike as a cow pat. Some fantastic, inspirational, honest politician is BOUND to show up soon. I don't care which party he/she/it represents. I just want empathic, strong leadership. We need somebody from the centre ground, no more extreme left or right.
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Jul 23, 2019 20:07:31 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 23, 2019 20:07:31 GMT
Even though Emmanuel Macron did not give France what a lot of people wanted, at least he gave us a new way to look at politics and more precisely to reject the old hacks who have been in power for the last several decades. I hope for the sake of Britain that somebody pops up over there to provide completely new ideas.
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Jul 24, 2019 0:28:22 GMT
Post by questa on Jul 24, 2019 0:28:22 GMT
So, The Donald and Boris Show has rolled into town.
Two clowns whose main aim is to undo the good of a century and entertain their audiences with demonstrations of total ineptitude, gross stupidity and evil morality.
Their big clown feet will stomp all over the Laws of their countries and their flashing red noses are to warn their audiences that democracy is under threat.
Tickets to the show may be obtained at the door, but may cost more than you think.
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Jul 24, 2019 16:40:18 GMT
Post by lugg on Jul 24, 2019 16:40:18 GMT
Exactly Bixa. K2 No stiff upper lip on my part but finding the humour, well as far as it is possible, some hilarious posts on social media . Hear-Hear Cheery.
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Jul 24, 2019 17:12:13 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 24, 2019 17:12:13 GMT
They said that the pound would tumble immediately, but it hasn't. That's good news, isn't it? But then again the new PM has not done anything yet, so anything is possible.
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Jul 24, 2019 19:18:15 GMT
Post by lugg on Jul 24, 2019 19:18:15 GMT
for now yes . Anyway this one made me laugh lots
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Jul 24, 2019 19:39:19 GMT
Post by mossie on Jul 24, 2019 19:39:19 GMT
Some fantastic, inspirational, honest politician is BOUND to show up soon. Ever the optimist. With the word politician in that sentence there is absobloominglutly no chance of that happening.
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Jul 25, 2019 11:40:33 GMT
Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 25, 2019 11:40:33 GMT
You never know Mossie...stranger things have happened.....
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Jul 25, 2019 14:48:35 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 25, 2019 14:48:35 GMT
98 days until the great departure... maybe. I saw that the former PM preferred to watch cricket rather than listen to the speech by the new PM. Probably a wise woman.
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Jul 25, 2019 16:30:37 GMT
Post by bixaorellana on Jul 25, 2019 16:30:37 GMT
Y'all are soooooo fucked.
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Jul 26, 2019 3:56:31 GMT
Post by questa on Jul 26, 2019 3:56:31 GMT
a group in London is trying to get people to not refer to him as "BORIS". With 3 other names, he chose Boris as it gave the impression of a jolly, friendly, non-threatening, slightly awkward uncle.
His first name is Alexander and he is called Al by friends and family. The group thinks he should just be called "Johnson"
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Jul 26, 2019 6:21:03 GMT
Post by bjd on Jul 26, 2019 6:21:03 GMT
Well, Johnson is a rather common name so it wouldn't give him the extraordinariness to which he is so obviously entitled.
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Jul 26, 2019 12:06:40 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Jul 26, 2019 12:06:40 GMT
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Jul 27, 2019 1:15:11 GMT
Post by lagatta on Jul 27, 2019 1:15:11 GMT
The Irish in me rallies! Both the Republic and the North have cast aside much of the sectarian crap.
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Jul 27, 2019 1:55:29 GMT
Post by mich64 on Jul 27, 2019 1:55:29 GMT
We so enjoyed our holiday in Ireland and Northern Ireland this past September.
When we were in Belfast we could feel the sincerity from those we spoke with, they were proud although still feeling a bit anxious but most all desire to continue moving forward, working together, they say it will probably take another generation, but so many are hopeful.
While on the hop on hop off bus tour, we were able to see many of the murals and the wall but she mostly talked about the progress. For example, when passing the Europa Hotel she told us that not so long ago, it was the only hotel in Belfast and now there are 40.
I hope they will be able to continue to grow together.
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Jul 28, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Jul 28, 2019 13:36:29 GMT
I think Wuesta summed it up. Donald endorses Johnson and this is enough to understand to what level of sh!t the country will plunge into. Actually the cynic in me is pleased to expect to see the chaos it will give in 3 months. Would be good to show some what results stupide decisions lead to.
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Jul 28, 2019 13:52:37 GMT
Post by questa on Jul 28, 2019 13:52:37 GMT
I, for one, don't know the players on the field. I need a program with the names and positions of all the major characters, just like the cricket matches do. That way I can boo the bad guys and cheer any good guys that find themselves in the game.
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Jul 29, 2019 13:15:08 GMT
Post by bjd on Jul 29, 2019 13:15:08 GMT
Reading about Johnson is similar to reading about Trump. I just saw that he demands that the EU drops the Irish backstop before he will talk. It reminds me of Trump pulling out of the Iran nuclear accord, then putting on more sanctions, then saying, "We are willing to talk to Iran." Do these guys not understand the concept of discussion? Compromise?
Meanwhile, today the British pound has lost more value with respect to the dollar. Maybe it will become cheaper for foreign tourists and that will make up for the economic losses in store?
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Jul 30, 2019 18:56:40 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Jul 30, 2019 18:56:40 GMT
I read - in the financial times no less - that Scotland thinks about organising a referendum to leave U.K. And then join EU. I don't know the likeliness of it but it would create a lot of death by laughter in the continent should it happen.
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Jul 30, 2019 19:14:46 GMT
Post by lugg on Jul 30, 2019 19:14:46 GMT
Just hanging my head in shame; my only hope is that the EU will stay strong and consequently Boris implodes leading to a general election and another referendum . But tbh another referendum may not result in a different outcome unless our young people stand up to be counted. Many are now eligible to vote and others have had a wake up call. Given the demographics of the previous vote that is what may make a difference.
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Jul 31, 2019 0:08:22 GMT
Post by questa on Jul 31, 2019 0:08:22 GMT
Best thing on TV yesterday...crowds of Bonnie Scots lining the route that Trump was driven along...hissing and booing him as only Scots can. It made my day!
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Jul 31, 2019 5:12:35 GMT
Post by bjd on Jul 31, 2019 5:12:35 GMT
I read - in the financial times no less - that Scotland thinks about organising a referendum to leave U.K. And then join EU. I don't know the likeliness of it but it would create a lot of death by laughter in the continent should it happen. The Financial Times is late to the party. The Scots voted Remain by about 65% in 2016. And the 2014 referendum on Scottish independence was lost by about 55%-45%. Given what has happened in the meantime, it's possible that this time the Independence side would win. Of course, they would have to apply to re-join the EU. That had been one of the talking points with possible Catalonian independence -- that they can't just stay in if they leave the country they are part of.
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Aug 1, 2019 3:44:03 GMT
Post by bixaorellana on Aug 1, 2019 3:44:03 GMT
Reading about Johnson is similar to reading about Trump. ... Do these guys not understand the concept of discussion? Compromise? Those creeps only understand grandstanding and lying. Re: their similarities ~ have you seen the memes of them? But tbh another referendum may not result in a different outcome unless our young people stand up to be counted. Many are now eligible to vote and others have had a wake up call. Given the demographics of the previous vote that is what may make a difference. Let's just hope they care enough! crowds of Bonnie Scots lining the route that Trump was driven along...hissing and booing him as only Scots can. That makes my day! Of course, they would have to apply to re-join the EU. That had been one of the talking points with possible Catalonian independence -- that they can't just stay in if they leave the country they are part of. Good point. Are there economic stipulations? Surely a brand new break-away country would not be all that economically strong.
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Aug 1, 2019 17:51:51 GMT
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Post by patricklondon on Aug 1, 2019 17:51:51 GMT
Are there economic stipulations? You betcha. One can suppose the usual process of assimilating all the relevant legislation into domestic law wouldn't need to be repeated so meticulously in this case (the usual accession treaty is enormous and the process took years for the last round), but it is a basic that new members should adopt the euro, and it's by no means guaranteed that an independent Scotland would be allowed all the opt-outs the UK has. That was one of the arguments at the time of the last independence referendum, and I don't know if the SNP is any less insouciant now about all that than they were then. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Aug 1, 2019 18:07:31 GMT
Post by bjd on Aug 1, 2019 18:07:31 GMT
I just checked and it is not a given that new members would have to adopt the euro. I assume there would be pressure to do so though. In any case, Scotland probably has a stronger and less corrupt economy than some current members like Romania or Bulgaria.
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Aug 1, 2019 18:11:41 GMT
Post by kerouac2 on Aug 1, 2019 18:11:41 GMT
That is what I read. Even Sweden has to adopt the euro sooner or later, even though it is still using its own currency.
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Aug 1, 2019 18:58:11 GMT
Post by lugg on Aug 1, 2019 18:58:11 GMT
Yes Bixa if we get the chance for a repeat vote let us hope that all who failed to vote / or those who are now eligible seize the opportunity. Re the Scottish question - I am not sure, and then of course there are the Irish voters to consider. There are a number of reports that explore the possible outcomes Info from the LSE with various views lseideas.atavist.com/ireland-uk
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