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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 13:58:29 GMT
But there must have been a second and third place result?
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Post by htmb on Jul 16, 2014 14:08:38 GMT
Welllllllllll. Yes there was. Didn't want to admit it, but since you asked. Second place was American Ebonics. I work with teenagers in the southeastern United States. What can I say. I suppose that's my second language. Third place was Singaporean. I have no idea what that says about me. Guesses for original language were American English, Danish, and Swedish.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:18:54 GMT
There, you see? THAT is interesting, and says far more about you than the "Standard American" answer.
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Post by htmb on Jul 16, 2014 14:22:13 GMT
Yeah.....I can hear you laughing from all the way across the border.
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Post by htmb on Jul 16, 2014 14:23:14 GMT
I suppose there is job security in having language skills, but it wasn't quite the language I was going for.
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Post by htmb on Jul 16, 2014 14:25:15 GMT
Lizzy, you might want to start a new thread with the link, and take it out of blah, blah. It's an interesting topic. Maybe put in the language section?
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Post by fumobici on Jul 16, 2014 14:26:02 GMT
Our top three guesses for your English dialect:?
Singapore huh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:26:50 GMT
If you can speak to and be understood by your students, and not have them think you are condescending or pretentious, that is a huge achievement.
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Post by bjd on Jul 16, 2014 15:38:45 GMT
I did that test on TT. My 3 languages for English were Standard American, Singaporean or Ebonics! And as native languages, I was offered Romanian, Chinese or Greek. So....I don't think it's all that accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:24:21 GMT
I have a lot of friends getting Singaporean English, and I did some research into it. Interesting.
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Post by htmb on Jul 16, 2014 16:28:18 GMT
I'm glad to hear it might not be all that accurate. I think they are just collecting large amounts of data.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:37:14 GMT
Well, I believe the algorithm is being adjusted as people fill out the little questionnaire at the end, so obviously it's not foolproof...yet.
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 16, 2014 17:19:30 GMT
Some confusion between what one would normally/natively do, and what one already knows to be acceptable variations in other dialects, but it guessed me right. Apart from deciding that my possible second and third native languages were Hungarian and Finnish (?! -does that mean Hungarians and Finns are commonly taught what I was taught as "proper" English?) My blog | My photos | My video clips"too literate to be spam"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 17:26:52 GMT
Perhaps that's part of it, Patrick. Who knows? I think there was one multiple choice question that I wanted to answer, "none of the above".
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Post by mich64 on Jul 16, 2014 17:34:49 GMT
Dialect - North Irish (UK), Scottish (UK), Irish (Republic of)
Native - English, Norwegian, Dutch
Interesting quiz, I can see how more information would benefit the algorithm.
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Post by htmb on Jul 16, 2014 18:10:03 GMT
I'm feeling like a lab rat......
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 16, 2014 19:49:49 GMT
English UK as first choice for both categories.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 20:13:02 GMT
It might too late to split this off to another topic. Perhaps Bixa could do it?
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2014 15:50:03 GMT
Their guesses for my English dialect: 1) American standard; 2) Canadian; 3) Singaporean
For my native language, they suggest: 1) English; 2) Norwegian; 3) Swedish
I think there were some typos in the test itself. There were a couple of instances where it seemed that the "to" in an infinitive was left out by mistake, rather than by design. Also, in some questions it seemed that to get an accurate reading, the question should have been "what feels right", rather than "what is grammatically correct"? For instance, I would never say "The people is angry", whereas I'm willing to accept that construction could be grammatically correct. And I'm positive one question had no grammatically correct answers.
Lizzy -- you can either make a new thread in Where Words Collide, copying & pasting your post in #1411 as the OP, or I can move that post & all the responses to the thread "English as a Cultural Binder" in Where Words Collide. It can also be left here. Leaving the topic here means that it will eventually get pushed back & probably never discovered by people who might be interested in it. Your choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 17:07:04 GMT
Sure, why don't you move the whole thing, Bixa? That way all the replies will stay together.
Because everyone here who has taken the test so far are born English speakers, I don't think we can say for sure if the grammar in the test is wrong or whether some of the multiple choice answers were deliberately worded to reflect different patois and dialects. For instance, I would never say, "The people is angry", but someone who is ESL might. I had a friend who came from Sicily to Vancouver at the age of 3, but still referred to spaghetti as "them".
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2014 18:17:55 GMT
Where do you want them moved? This is a good example of why posters should consider the long term value of their posts & place them accordingly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 18:39:42 GMT
Never mind, it'll be fine where it is, Bixa. I didn't place the post elsewhere originally because I thought it was a fluffy little thing that would go by without much notice. So sorry to cause a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:34:47 GMT
I get American, Australian, Singaporean.
I recognized all of the Singaporean replies immediately since I have been there so many times and have Singaporean friends. So I don't know how I could be considered to be Singaporean in any way since I never gave any of those replies.
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Post by questa on Jul 17, 2014 23:10:29 GMT
I got New Zealandish (sic) Australian South African for dialect and Greek and Hungarian being native language after English.
There was a trick question to identify Ozzies...something that is a fundamental phrase we use that is grammatically incorrect but part of our dialect.
Any guesses?
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Post by htmb on Jul 18, 2014 2:02:59 GMT
Thanks for combining the threads, Bixa. Good idea. I had never read the first part, so it's a nice opportunity to catch up on some old conversation!
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Post by lagatta on Jul 18, 2014 23:32:30 GMT
For some reason, it thinks I speak Irish (English) or Northern Irish.
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 23, 2014 20:03:20 GMT
"She'll be right"? Not grammatically incorrect, though. I expect Margaret Thatcher's supporters said it all the time about whatever she was going to say next. (I had to work through it again to find that, and this time it got me even closer as English/Welsh/Scots, though I was deliberately marking Irish and American usages as natural/correct, even though I wouldn't say them). My blog | My photos | My video clips"too literate to be spam"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 20:29:46 GMT
Probably the test should have been longer to fine tune our replies, but I presume that they understand that people replying to such surveys have limited patience.
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Post by questa on Jul 24, 2014 0:58:34 GMT
Patrick...usually said after wiring up a collapsed exhaust pipe on a truck with fencing wire or using duct tape to repair a hole in a canoe etc Rarely is the "She" one of the female persuasion.
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Post by mossie on Jul 31, 2014 20:28:54 GMT
It has my dialect as English, Scottish(UK) and Australian. But my native language is weird, English, Turkish, Chinese, that is a real rum selection.
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