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Post by happytraveller on May 15, 2009 6:44:07 GMT
Overcast, rainy but still around 18°. Quite warm for a rainy day in May.
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Post by bjd on May 15, 2009 11:25:33 GMT
I think the weather here has mistaken May for March. It was warm at the beginning of the week -- today it's about 15°, rainy and with a strong north wind. The cherries on the trees are going to be tasteless and rotten if this keeps up.
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Post by gyro on May 15, 2009 12:49:59 GMT
I see some complaint(s) have been listened too, and some censorship applied. Thanks for the objective and helpful explanation guys. I prefer two-way streets myself.
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Post by Kimby on May 18, 2009 19:36:46 GMT
Spring has finally arrived in Montana, though I think it actually skipped right from winter to summer while we were gone to Florida. Today is 84 degrees. Not unlike the temps in Florida. Wildflowers are blooming in the yard. The grass is green and trees are leafing out. (Hope it doesn't snow and break all the branches like it did June 10 last year!)
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 19:41:29 GMT
OMG, I thought you had died of spring (swine) fever, Kimby. I for one am very happy to see you back, even if Gyro doesn't want us to talk about the weather here.
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Post by Kimby on May 18, 2009 20:09:17 GMT
Yes, I know it could perceived as being a bit hypocritical as I often moan about weather threads, but it's not really .... Twice in the last few days, I have really felt the change of spring in the air and it is a wonderful feeling. What other nice feelings like this do you appreciate ?Quoting the OP above, since it's 12 pages back. By the title, though, one would expect it to be about weather. Other nice feelings: I sometimes become aware of a "sense of well-being" often when travelling, when I'm outdoors and the temperature is close to the temperature of my skin, the sun is out and I'm seeing interesting things. (Hope that response wasn't too weather-related, gyro!)
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 20:25:57 GMT
It will be sunny and warm in Paris for the next two days. That will be a nice change.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 18, 2009 21:45:29 GMT
Hi-eeeeeeee, Kimbeeeee! Where have you been, & are you okay? Is it okay to ask if you are in Montana or Florida? You got congratulated on becoming a Stalwart, in case you didn't see it. Anyway -- great to see you.
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 4:59:35 GMT
Yet more deleting. WELL DONE GUYS !
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 5:10:58 GMT
Oh, and Kimby, cheers for the effort, but you needn't have bothered. Just keep responding to the mods in a fashion THEY require, and you'll be fine. Never mind if you wish to make any point that you feel is valid, or even respond to a jibe from one of them, ONLY do it if has been pre-authorised by them. Any other sort of response will NOT be tolerated, seeing as they are so wonderfully objective and obviosuly not over sensitive, stupidly reactionary or ridiculously blinkered in their conceit.
I reckon I'll give this one about 10 minutes tops, and then it too will dissapear into the cloudy fog that is over-personal paranoia too ......
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Post by Jazz on May 19, 2009 6:30:02 GMT
Oh, and Kimby, cheers for the effort, but you needn't have bothered. Just keep responding to the mods in a fashion THEY require, and you'll be fine. Never mind if you wish to make any point that you feel is valid, or even respond to a jibe from one of them, ONLY do it if has been pre-authorised by them. Any other sort of response will NOT be tolerated, seeing as they are so wonderfully objective and obviosuly not over sensitive, stupidly reactionary or ridiculously blinkered in their conceit. I reckon I'll give this one about 10 minutes tops, and then it too will dissapear into the cloudy fog that is over-personal paranoia too ...... Gyro, I must now confess...what is your problem? Why are you so upset and demanding, in your own way , about this forum? Kimby's message appears to have not been deleted. Most of your posts have not been deleted. I find your OP's and posts stimulating, as do many others. (you always totally ignore mine, but que sera, sera. ) AnyPort is simply another forum. I think that you need to drop the mentality of competition with ttr. They are, different, and this difference grows by the hour. Difference, not competition. Your posts are great, but only disappointing when you have this overwhelming need to criticize or lash out...which is becoming tedious and you are much more creative than this......why do you need to do this? Who cares? If, indeed, you feel so fucked by the mods, then why do you post? Perhaps you could be more generous. This is a young forum with its hopes, unfortunately, the mere idea that they would create another forum caused them to be banned from the other forum. Now, that is sad, isn't it? Fuck. So, what do you think? Are you here as an agent provacateur? Or, would you like to be off and on, a part of the forum? Sincerely, I don't understand your motivation.
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Post by happytraveller on May 19, 2009 6:54:45 GMT
I think summer is arriving here. Tomorrow it is supposed to be 28°C. WOW ! It will be hard to be at work...
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 7:05:00 GMT
"AnyPort is simply another forum. I think that you need to drop the mentality of competition with ttr. "
Who's comparing with TTR ? That's really bizarre; if you think any opinion or behaviour of mine here is some sort of MISSION from there, then that's ridiculous and deluded.
I just find seemingly unwarranted deletion without discussion or explanation offensive and unnecessary. perhaps I could be more generous ? Yes, perhaps. Perhaps the mods could be more objective or indeed have the courtesy to explain if any lines had been crossed that I was unaware of, rather than assume the worst too ?
I post here because I find some posts interesting, and like being part of a forum. If something is said or done that I disagree with, I will always say so, however, and always will. Perhaps this is my mistake in thinking in an 'intellectual' and open forum ALL opinions can be valid .. ? And if you find my 'need to criticise and lash out' tedious, then it should also be noted that on more than one occasion a mod or two has fired a shot at me without provocation. . .
"I find your OP's and posts stimulating, as do many others. (you always totally ignore mine, but que sera, sera. )"
Once again, quite bizarre. If I don't reply to any of your posts it may be because I have no contribution or am not looking within the branch you post. To assume I'm 'ignoring' you is a very strange attitude to take.
The whole tone of your reply seems very paranoid and oversensitive, not to mention far more agenda based than myself. When do I bring up TTR ? I'm not interested in comparing the two, or favouring either. It was exactly the same previously on TTR when some posters used to compare and criticise it with Lonely Planet. Maybe you disn't see it then (or maybe you were ignoring me, ha!), but I always openly disagreed with such childish 'my gang's better than your gang' attitudes. Still, if your feelings and suspicions are shared by those 'in power' then it would explain a lot, in all honesty.
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Post by Jazz on May 19, 2009 7:05:33 GMT
Confession #2: Gyro, if I was a mod, I think I might ban you. You are almost consistently negative about AnyPort. You never lose a moment for a criticism. (bless you) Actually, here you show your greatest creativity....you can turn any response from Bixa or K2 into a bleak negative! You are good! However, you confuse me, you do post good to great posts.
Left in confusion, Jazz.
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 7:25:25 GMT
Sounds like you are a mod, based on your inability to respond to any points I have raised.
Yes, I freely admit that on occasion I have introduced a negative as I have a particular axe to grind, but that is mostly based on a non or negative reaction in the first place from something that I thought was valid. There have been times that anything OTHER than arse-kissing has been knocked down, which I think is wrong, when, in that case, it was not brought to the table as an attack or wind up, but with an objective mind and positive reasoning.
Still, I hold no hope of any such change in attitudes ....
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Post by Jazz on May 19, 2009 7:45:07 GMT
"AnyPort is simply another forum. I think that you need to drop the mentality of competition with ttr. " Who's comparing with TTR ? That's really bizarre; if you think any opinion or behaviour of mine here is some sort of MISSION from there, then that's ridiculous and deluded. I just find seemingly unwarranted deletion without discussion or explanation offensive and unnecessary. perhaps I could be more generous ? Yes, perhaps. Perhaps the mods could be more objective or indeed have the courtesy to explain if any lines had been crossed that I was unaware of, rather than assume the worst too ? I post here because I find some posts interesting, and like being part of a forum. If something is said or done that I disagree with, I will always say so, however, and always will. Perhaps this is my mistake in thinking in an 'intellectual' and open forum ALL opinions can be valid .. ? And if you find my 'need to criticise and lash out' tedious, then it should also be noted that on more than one occasion a mod or two has fired a shot at me without provocation. . . "I find your OP's and posts stimulating, as do many others. (you always totally ignore mine, but que sera, sera. )" Once again, quite bizarre. If I don't reply to any of your posts it may be because I have no contribution or am not looking within the branch you post. To assume I'm 'ignoring' you is a very strange attitude to take. The whole tone of your reply seems very paranoid and oversensitive, not to mention far more agenda based than myself. When do I bring up TTR ? I'm not interested in comparing the two, or favouring either. It was exactly the same previously on TTR when some posters used to compare and criticise it with Lonely Planet. Maybe you disn't see it then (or maybe you were ignoring me, ha!), but I always openly disagreed with such childish 'my gang's better than your gang' attitudes. Still, if your feelings and suspicions are shared by those 'in power' then it would explain a lot, in all honesty. Gyro, I will begin with "the whole tone of your reply seems very paranoid and oversensitive." NO. I am Josephine poster and this is how I interpret the situation. You feel that some of your posts have been unfairly deleted? Perhaps. I do know that many of your posts online have been mean and unfair ( only to the mods) and I (objectively) have no idea what your problem is in the particular situation. Yes, I suppose the mods could have the courtesy of explaining where you crossed the line. From my readings, I have no problem understanding where you crossed the line. The minimal is your constant demeaning of Bixa and Kerouac. With your immense creativity, you go far, far beyond this....a kind of negative creativity... It appears to be your mission in life at this point. Why? Why not support or say nothing? You choose 80% of the time to demean. You appear to be very creative, why not express this? How many negative posts have we read since your last post of creating your bow??? your imminent trip to Vienna?...your home town?...your anything? I think that this is a very open forum. It is not a chat forum. There is a beauty of freedom of ideas.
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 7:52:23 GMT
See, this whole loose definition of a 'chat' forum is very odd. It has been used before in a negative way, and then the speaker of such 'ideals' has regularly appeared to 'chat' ..
Seeing my negativitiy as a 'mission' is a wrong interpretation. Please don't make the mistake of thinking every time I type an expletive or use an exclamation mark, I am sitting at my pc rocking back and forth with clenched fists, gritted teeth and steam coming out of my ears ! . . "How many negative posts have we read since your last post of creating your bow??? your imminent trip to Vienna?...your home town?...your anything?"
Yes, it is VERY easy, once you form a certain opinion of somebody, to ONLY see the negative. Maybe I am guilty of that, fair enough. But that attitude is not solely my own, and it is FAR too easy and blinkered to lay all the blame squarely at my feet.
And yes, the beauty of freedom of ideas does, in my opinion, work BOTH ways.
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Post by Jazz on May 19, 2009 8:05:47 GMT
......And yes, the beauty of freedom of ideas does, in my opinion, work BOTH ways. It does work both ways...why are you choosing to work mostly negatively here?
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 8:42:20 GMT
Well, in all fairness, I can admit to some of the times when I've been spiky and possibly unreasonable, as above. I am willing to discuss anything with a degree of objectivity and self-criticism. It appears that others are not. Which one is more negative ?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 8:45:17 GMT
I know someone else who always thought it was his mission to "spice things up" because he was bored by civilized posts and thought that everybody should feel the same way. He really thought he was the backbone of the forum. What a delusion.
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 8:45:51 GMT
See what I mean ?
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 8:47:37 GMT
Not bothering to read or understand any of the posts I made above, but preferring to make his own mind up about my 'motives' based on previous, completely irrelvant poster(s). Shame.
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Post by Jazz on May 19, 2009 9:08:57 GMT
Well, in all fairness, I can admit to some of the times when I've been spiky and possibly unreasonable, as above. I am willing to discuss anything with a degree of objectivity and self-criticism. It appears that others are not. Which one is more negative ? ' I think you both 'bring something to the table'. If it is important , I think that you will both (and others ) discuss. I read K2's reply and interpreted it differently...it was not anti-Gyro, it was just an 'off hand' comment. So much of what is written is a question of semantics, of interpretation, of mood....
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 9:12:59 GMT
Indeed. But it's funny how, on the occasions when I have a laugh / wind up, it is all too often interpretated as me being an arse and making a personal attack though.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 9:17:13 GMT
As you know, irony often doesn't come across on the internet. And humour often flops as well. That might be partly to the international nature of such a site -- different cultures take things differently.
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Post by Jazz on May 19, 2009 9:22:33 GMT
Indeed. But it's funny how, on the occasions when I have a laugh / wind up, it is all too often interpretated as me being an arse and making a personal attack though. Dare I say this? You are very, very sensitive! I never see you as an arse and I don't think that others do. But, if you feel that this is how you are being perceived, then I could understand your reactions. I would be the same.
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Post by gyro on May 19, 2009 10:24:55 GMT
You think ? I dunno. Sometimes I am very thick skinned, other times more reactionary. I can understand people's "aaah god, he's off again..." attitude based on some posts, but this is initially borne out of frustration. I'm not sitting in a corner crying or anything; I don't take things to heart at all in that respect, I just wish communication could be two way in the first place.
This is going to sound WILDLY two-faced, but I think when such jibes or things come from a mod, they can come across as worse as I think a mod should be FAR more impartial and in a way 'whiter than white' - certainly compared to posters. I don't expect anybody to agree with that, btw.
"As you know, irony often doesn't come across on the internet."
No, I don't know that. I post what I want, but not what I know is DELIBERATELY offensive without justification. If I was, for example to call somebody a 'slag' ironically, that's fine. If I knew that somebody would NEVER be able to acknowledge that as 'humour', then I wouldn't do it.
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Post by Kimby on May 21, 2009 1:55:54 GMT
Anything I read, I take at face value. If you want to be ironic and have me interpret it that way, you'll have to start using emoticons.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 21, 2009 2:13:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2009 2:16:24 GMT
Again,welcome back kimby.See you down in Port &Starboard you ol' stalwart you
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