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Post by chexbres on Oct 18, 2016 20:31:30 GMT
Obama's remark that Mr Trump should stop whining and start looking for votes proves that he is the only adult in the room.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 20:36:52 GMT
Hey, we don't want too many of those people crawling out of their bunkers!
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Post by chexbres on Oct 19, 2016 8:22:59 GMT
Donald Trump has invited 2 "special guests" to the debate: Malik Obama, the President's Kenyan half-brother, who is rooting for Trump. Patricia Smith, whose blames Clinton for the death of her son killed in Benghazi, and for lying to her about the circumstances.
Hillary Clinton has invited 2 billionaires: Mark Cuban, described as the "chief Trump antagonist", who unsettled Trump by merely sitting in the front row during the first debate. Meg Whitman, prominent defector from the Republican party, who now campaigns and raises money for Clinton, in light of Trump's attitude towards women.
I can't shake the feeling that since the last debate is being held in Las Vegas, that Trump will somehow have the advantage, making every last-ditch effort to hold onto the "reality TV" effect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 11:00:02 GMT
He will dress up as Liberace and win the heart of the city. It will certainly beat Hillary looking like Phyllis Diller.
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Post by lagatta on Oct 19, 2016 12:04:20 GMT
But isn't Malik Obama a ... Muslim?
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Post by questa on Oct 19, 2016 15:11:46 GMT
Having Malik there is a mistake on Trump's part. Apart from being Muslim (which will alienate many of Trump's herd) It says that Trump is ready to stoop to attack family values by setting brother on brother.If Hillary can show how Malik has been part of the family until Trump has caused a family rift, the ploy may backfire. Then there is the old feeling that goes, "Don't come from some other country and tell us what to do!"
Men getting around here wearing T-shirts emblazoned TRUCK FUMP
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Post by patricklondon on Oct 19, 2016 15:45:18 GMT
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Post by chexbres on Oct 19, 2016 20:10:42 GMT
Only a little...
Will Malik Obama even be allowed inside the United States???
None of these people will be discussed - they are only there for intimidation purposes.
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Post by lagatta on Oct 19, 2016 21:12:22 GMT
I believe Malik Obama also holds US citizenship. I do hope someone reminds Trump that this Mr Obama is indeed a Muslim... (I checked; I don't assume anything based on names).
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Post by htmb on Oct 19, 2016 21:23:04 GMT
Malik Obama likes the Republican stance against same sex marriage, according to the New York Post: Obama believes strongly in the institution of marriage — so strongly that he has at least three current wives, although press reports have put the number as high as 12.
When asked by The Post how many wives and children he has, Obama demurred.
“That’s personal,” he said.
Obama made headlines in 2011 when he married his third wife, who was still in her teens.
Obama plans to trek back to the US to vote for Trump in November. Obama used to live in Maryland, where he worked for many years as an accountant, and is registered to vote there, public records show.Source
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Post by questa on Oct 19, 2016 23:38:15 GMT
None of these people will be discussed - they are only there for intimidation purposes. Isn't the prospect of Donald Trump becoming President intimidating enough?
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Post by htmb on Oct 20, 2016 11:59:50 GMT
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Post by tod2 on Oct 20, 2016 13:47:45 GMT
The title of this thread "American Elections Can Be Funny" could very shortly change to "Americans Elections ARE Scary". I have always rooted for Hillary. The rumbustious Trump has never appeared a likely president to me, BUT wait a minute! I am shaken by the medical insinuation that Hillary Clinton has Parkinsons Disease. After watching the YouTube clip I am sorry to say that my late mother had most of the same symptons: Difficulty walking, balance issues, swallowing and coughing symptoms, hand trembling. She did not have the nodding head but then not all Parkinsons characteristics manifest themselves in a person.
I am shattered at learning this sad news if it is true. She and Americans have my deepest sympathy.
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Post by chexbres on Oct 20, 2016 14:39:54 GMT
Oh, I don't know about looking for evidence of disease - especially coming from some random doctor who's only watching symptoms on TV, who is not an expert on Parkinson's or Parkinson's medications, whose opinions seem embedded in the Far Right movement - and who also seems to have a great deal of difficulty pronouncing his own words during this video.
It's been confirmed that Hillary suffers from hypothyroidism, which could also account for some of her symptoms. It's also possible that when she suffered a concussion, she ended up with "absence seizures", a form of epilepsy.
Frankly, I'd be much more interested to know why Trump's skin is bright orange, while his eyes seem to be disappearing into those fleshy, white pouches. Will the truth finally surface that one of his parents was an orangutan? I'd also like to know the truth about his hands...
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Post by questa on Oct 20, 2016 14:48:31 GMT
Tod2, I have had Parkinson's Disease for 10 years and have to agree with you. Many of the common signs are present in Hillary, but one thing i noticed was her speech. My biggest hassle with PD is I lose words...even if I have used a word in the previous sentence I will forget it 5 seconds later. Another example is my brain tries to fill the blank and often replaces it with a similar word that is completely off ..."I am feeding the cat" becomes "I am feeding the cup"
Now with all the speeches I have seen, Hillary has good command of her words. She has not garbled or frozen with the "word is on the tip of my tongue" stalling that is very common. The one time when the security came to her aid was more grim, but it can't be said it was definitely PD as this disorder has many different aspects.
I have wondered if the plan is to get her elected President then soon after she steps down and VP takes over. It still makes her the first Woman President. which may have been her aim after all.
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Post by tod2 on Oct 20, 2016 15:22:28 GMT
Questa - You may have seen that someone said "Her husband Bill is actually aiming to stand for President again and is trying to do this through Hillary" - Mmmm...not sure how that would work but I'm sure Americans don't want to be embarrassed by his antics again.
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Post by chexbres on Oct 20, 2016 19:14:49 GMT
I don't think an impeached President could be re-elected. Not sure I like Tim Kaine, either.
But none of this matters, since Trump has refused to acknowledge the outcome of the election unless he wins.
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Post by chexbres on Oct 21, 2016 8:17:54 GMT
In retrospect, questa and tod2, I think you might be onto something. Why else would Trump request a drug test? His spies are probably onto something.
Even if Hillary does have Parkinson's - and she might have had this disease for some time - it seems to be under control. Chances are that she will be much more closely monitored during her presidency, and not left to work herself to death.
Remember that Reagan had Alzheimer's, Kennedy had Addison's disease and was addicted to painkillers, Roosevelt had polio, Wilson suffered multiple strokes which left him partially paralyzed...it seems that nobody gets to this office without some major health problems.
But I don't think there's any excuse - or cure - for Trump's ignorance.
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Post by tod2 on Oct 21, 2016 12:29:28 GMT
Maybe it has something to do with age....another person with Parkinson's was Michael J. Fox only because he eventually had to come clean about his condition. On googling this I discovered that Billy Graham and Johnny Cash were also afflicted.
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Post by questa on Oct 21, 2016 13:22:04 GMT
Also Mohammed Ali, Pope John Paul 11 and General Franco Spanish dictator. Lots more interesting people but it has been, until lately, one of those illnesses that families tried to hide. Michael J Fox has brought it to general awareness and his foundation has funded some top research and treatment. Deep brain stimulation is fairly common here now and stem cell therapy is on the horizon. Medications are managing to control the symptoms much better now, but when I went to Tibet and spent a week around the 16,000 feet altitude without back-up oxygen, I did myself no good at all.
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Post by chexbres on Oct 21, 2016 19:50:04 GMT
Epilepsy was - and probably still is to a degree - considered a shameful illness. My mother suffered from grand mal seizures which scared me to death when I was a child. She always thought she was in heaven, when she came out of them.
I was diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy in my mid-teens. This makes me zone out for a few seconds from time to time - like the Hillary episode, I can't move, but can hear, though my vision goes out of focus. I also have some interesting visual hallucinations - always turquoise and always sharp, mosaic patterns - but they don't last long unless they're leading up to a migraine.
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Post by lagatta on Oct 23, 2016 0:16:42 GMT
If I recall, Michael J Fox was relatively young when diagnosed with Parkinson's, which was thought of as a geriatric disease, was spotlighted.
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Post by Kimby on Oct 23, 2016 1:44:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 1:56:36 GMT
Thanks for that, Kimby. I hate when people buy into conspiracy theories.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 16:39:04 GMT
I will supposedly be on airplanes during most of election day, so I won't find out the punchline of the electoral joke until I arrive the following morning.
Should I start laughing in advance?
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Post by questa on Nov 4, 2016 23:28:17 GMT
Not laughing, weeping.
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Post by bjd on Nov 5, 2016 6:58:38 GMT
Last night I listened to a debate by some journalists about the election. They were basically in agreement that if Hillary Clinton had been a good candidate, Trump wouldn't have had a chance, but since she isn't, the race is neck and neck.
And could someone explain why Americans can, and are being encouraged to, vote in advance? Given that turnout is never all that high, are they afraid of voting stations being overwhelmed?
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Post by tod2 on Nov 5, 2016 10:39:44 GMT
I am also curious about the voting starting before 'voting day' if there is such a thing....or does the polling station come in at the end so as to finalise all the voting?.
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Post by htmb on Nov 5, 2016 13:34:18 GMT
In the USA, elections almost always fall on a Tuesday, which is a work day for practically everyone. Polls are open from seven in the morning to seven at night. To make sure all registered voters have an opportunity to cast their ballot, early voting begins approximately two weeks before an election when we are allowed to visit the supervisor of elections office or other limited locations. On Election Day, those who still need to vote go to their local polling place. In a presidential election year lines can be very long, so voting early is encouraged. Another way we can vote is by absentee ballot, something I took advantage of this year due to travel plans. After filing a request, I received my ballot in the mail, made my selections, and returned it to the supervisor of elections office. My vote will be checked against the signature on the outside of the envelope and I can track the progress of the receipt of my ballot through an online link. Here's a link to an early voting thread I made four years ago during the last presidential election. LINK
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Post by Kimby on Nov 5, 2016 13:45:50 GMT
IN Montana we can vote by mail in every election if we wish. Once a year we are sent a request to reconfirm our address and our desire to continue receiving ballots by mail. We get the ballot for every election about a month before Election Day.
One huge advantage to turning in the ballot as soon as possible is that campaigns use the list of registered voters to determine which households to target with political mailings and phone calls. Once my ballot is received at the courthouse, my name drops off the list these political advertisers target. My vote isn't tallied till Election Day, but my mailbox is no longer stuffed with glossy propaganda and my phone isn't ringing at dinner time anymore.
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