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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 21, 2024 18:04:53 GMT
That is new news. Fascinating stuff even for a Brit.
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Post by bjd on Jul 21, 2024 18:31:07 GMT
Biden has endorsed Kamala Harris. Now it's Trump who is "too old".
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Post by lugg on Jul 21, 2024 19:16:36 GMT
What do I know about US politics ..but I think its is good that Biden has stepped down; now the Democrats really need to sort themselves out not just for the US but for all of us.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 21, 2024 19:24:26 GMT
Yessss.
Now the dems have a chance.
I can only imagine the amount of pressure Biden has gotten to withdraw.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 21, 2024 20:02:15 GMT
They need a really good candidate don't they? Someone with an impeccable past, a sharp intellect, commanding presence, a charismatic speaker with LOTS of money. Good luck.
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Post by Kimby on Jul 21, 2024 20:55:12 GMT
It will very likely be Kamala Harris though there is some talk of a mini primary to give her choice more legitimacy. Her name was on the primary election ballots that 14 million voted for, and the checks were made out to Biden-Harris. Hard to replace her with someone new. Her VP pick will be very important. Senator Mark Kelly of AZ is a possibility. KY governor Andy Bashear is another. PA Governor Josh Shapiro, and Roy Cooper of NC. All 4 white men.
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Post by fumobici on Jul 22, 2024 1:46:25 GMT
Those all would be worthy candidates to challenge Harris for the nomination or to serve as veep. I went from despair to hope in about a minute when I heard the news. We were sleepwalking into fascism with what's left of Biden atop the ticket.
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Post by Kimby on Jul 22, 2024 2:09:32 GMT
Agree, Fumo.
A lot more optimism than a few hours ago.
Here’s the latest ad from the Lincoln Project.
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Post by Kimby on Jul 22, 2024 2:13:21 GMT
And now the accolades for Biden and his achievements in the past 3 1/2 years are rolling in. Almost every endorsement of Harris begins with recognition of and thanks for Biden’s service.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 22, 2024 6:16:46 GMT
Is she any good? I know little about her.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 22, 2024 9:47:23 GMT
Sometimes I am a real naive fool.
I read the article on CNN about what Trump said if Biden after he decided to quit.
I expected some kind of praise saying he was an honorable opponent.
Trump : Biden has been the worst president of the USA.
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Post by bjd on Jul 22, 2024 11:14:14 GMT
I expected some kind of praise saying he was an honorable opponent. You should know by now -- Trump would never ever praise a political opponent. He's busy thinking up nasty nicknames for Kamala Harris and any other prospective Democrat candidates.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 22, 2024 12:29:09 GMT
Didn’t he call her Pocahontas already ?
Besides she is just a woman. To be grabbed by the pussy … Swine.
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Post by bjd on Jul 22, 2024 15:45:34 GMT
Senator Elizabeth Warren, and other commentators, have called the upcoming confrontation "the prosecutor versus the felon".
I just wish Harris would stop wearing those awful pantsuits -- like Hilary Clinton's. She could take some style advice from Jill Biden.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 22, 2024 16:41:44 GMT
Or she could wear a sari and they might stop calling her black. I am furious that the media always concentrate on her Jamaican father as though the father is the most important parent.
But no, in the US, mixed race Barack Obama = black and mixed rared Kamala Harris = black.
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Post by lugg on Jul 22, 2024 19:32:01 GMT
I am really highlighting my ignorance here of US politics but ... can previous presidents stand again , just thinking Obama ?
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 22, 2024 20:28:21 GMT
I am really highlighting my ignorance here of US politics but ... can previous presidents stand again , just thinking Obama ? That’s what Trump is doing...
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Post by fumobici on Jul 22, 2024 20:37:00 GMT
They can't run for a third term, they can theoretically serve part of a term in the rather unlikely event that they run again as the veep, can't remember the time limit.
Obama was more frequently referred to as "black" than "mixed-race" in both the US media and conversationally. I'm 100% agnostic on it.
Kamala isn't a great speaker, but she's pretty good at confronting total BS, which is the job before her. Prosecutors have to manage that. She might not win (I think she will) but she'll get more votes than Biden would've.
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Post by Kimby on Jul 23, 2024 5:51:52 GMT
They can't run for a third term, they can theoretically serve part of a term in the rather unlikely event that they run again as the veep, can't remember the time limit. An individual can serve a maximum of 10 years: up to two years of a term they ascended to upon the death or resignation of their predecessor plus two terms of their own. A person like Obama who has served two full terms as POTUS also could not run for VP, for example, because he isn’t eligible to serve a full 4-year term as POTUS if the president dropped dead on inauguration day.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 23, 2024 10:51:11 GMT
I sincerely hope that tbe Democrats win, they seem much more reasonable and groovy. If Trump gets in he won't want to leave and we'll have all the fuss we had before come the following election.
I understand (I think) that many people in the US feel like the rest of the world is bleeding them dry, and expects too much of the US economy. North Ametican governments have a well deserved reputation for being generous and philanthropic, whilst also having problems with unemployment, poverty, drugs, education etc. If I thought for one minute that Trump would be solving the problems at home, looking after the health, employment, housing and educational needs of the less fortunate members of society then I might have a bit more time for him...but one gets the impression that it's just the usual...the rich get richer, more for the ones who already have everything...he won't be looking at the health and social care for the underprivileged. Isolationism for Trump just means more power for him and his buddies.
This is only my opinion. I have no real insight into the US system, just what I can glean from the media really.
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Post by lugg on Jul 23, 2024 19:32:56 GMT
Thank you Fumobici and Kimby ; helped me to understand the details more .
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Post by bjd on Jul 24, 2024 5:49:48 GMT
Now that Harris is the likely Democrat candidate, Trump's campaign is going to switch from attacking Biden to attacking Harris. No thoughts on policy, domestic or foreign, no vision for the future. And she will have to do the same. Pathetic, really.
Perhaps she can use Trump's history and attitude to women as a weapon?
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Post by Kimby on Jul 25, 2024 2:19:59 GMT
She’s coming on strong as a prosecutor who “knows his type”.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 25, 2024 3:17:15 GMT
Yep! That full quote deserves an airing: In Milwaukee, Harris leaned into her career as a prosecutor to vilify the twice-impeached Trump, the first former president in US history convicted of a felony. “I took on perpetrators of all kinds: predators who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers, cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain,” Harris said. “So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump’s type.”further: [In]Wisconsin for a rally ... she touted her agenda as one that would focus on extending health care, child care and paid family leave to all Americans. She also assailed Donald Trump and the Republican Party over its effort to further restrict reproductive freedoms in the wake of the Supreme Court’s elimination of the federal right to an abortion.sourceReproductive rights will be a major part of her platform. I hope to hell she manages to get through to Trump supporters & the undecideds that curtailing abortion in the way some states are doing is not at all just about abortion. No, it's about insidiously making it okay in people's minds that women are a lesser and more stupid type of human, and as such can't be responsible for themselves. Also, it's okay to look down on them. If you can get the voting public to accept that one half the human race is inferior, you can pretty much write your own ticket as a dictator.
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Post by lugg on Jul 26, 2024 19:23:18 GMT
that curtailing abortion in the way some states are doing is not at all just about abortion. No, it's about insidiously making it okay in people's minds that women are a lesser and more stupid type of human, and as such can't be responsible for themselves. Also, it's okay to look down on them. If you can get the voting public to accept that one half the human race is inferior, you can pretty much write your own ticket as a dictator. That is so scary.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 27, 2024 14:58:55 GMT
Everybody agrees that women are inferior. Where is the problem ?
Ok. I left the room. Running. Fast
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Post by Kimby on Jul 29, 2024 4:07:16 GMT
Recent polling has Kamala pulling ahead of Trump. I hope it holds.
The old switcheroo pulled by Biden has knocked the wind out of the MAGA party’s sails. They spent the whole GOP convention tearing into Biden and now he’s not the candidate. All the anti-Biden merchandise is now worthless. Awww.
I feel so bad for them. Not.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 29, 2024 4:50:42 GMT
There is a great photo of Trump shaking hands with Vance. It's awkward & they're not looking at each other. Vance looks like Satan and Trump is sort of hunched over and blank looking. Oh, what's the word I'm looking for? Right -- he looks old!
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Post by Kimby on Jul 29, 2024 23:26:01 GMT
Trump OWNS the “old” label he tried so hard to pin on Biden.
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 4, 2024 3:46:40 GMT
This made me laugh, but not in a good way.
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